With respect to Victor, with whom I have no beef. I don't know him and it seems like he has a successful business going. I wish him all the best and I find joy in seeing ZA entrepreneurs doing well. Designing a bike is not as easy as it seems. In the old days where bikes were brazed from tubesets and cast-iron lugs, lots of people called themselves designers, including a few successful ZA frame makers, I would imagine. Reality is, all the design was in the lugs, where the angles, offsets, stresses and strains, were all built into the meccano set pieces which were commercially available from several lug manufactuers, including the likes of Cinelli, Ceeway and others. All the builder had to do was select the appropriate lugs, cut the tubes to the customer's size, assemble it all on a jig and braze. I also made myself a bike like that, one that I still ride today. This is not bike design. Modern bike design would require actual design and engineering skills. This is particularly true for carbon bikes or aluminium bikes with hydroformed tubes. Keep in mind that the creator of a bike has an obligation to the end user in terms of safety and will understand the materials he or she is working with well enough, to ensure that the end product will not fail catastrophically. Only engineers are trained to do this. This obligation becomes particularly difficult to manage with the market forces that dictate minimum weight. This effectively leaves no margin for error. A particularly critical component is the fork. Very few bike companies design their own forks and usually outsource this to specialist like Reynolds, Dedaccia (SP?) and the likes. I have no idea how one goes about getting a Taiwanese company to make a bike for you but I would imagine that you either give them a CAD drawing and very specific parameters or, you leave the design work to them and make cosmetic decisions such as the curve of the top tube, the profile of the chainstays or whatever. This is the engineering equivalent to colouring in by numbers. I have seen some Taiwanese catalogue frames and have come to recognise many design artifcats in some of the bikes available in ZA under various brands. These frames are all the work of one designer or one master engineering organization that does work on behalf of others. One way of working around the "Designed in South Africa" problem (if you want to be perfectly honest) is to fly a bike designer over to South Africa, put him up in a hotel in Sandton and tell him to not emerge until his has finished the design. That would technically be a "designed in South Africa bike." Personally, I don't care where something was invented, designed or manufactured. I attach no value to these designations but I do see the marketing value in playing the patriotism card or the "Made in Western Germany" ace. I own some excellent goods made in China. If Mr Momsen indeed designs his bikes himself, I have to assume that he is either an engineer or has an engineer checking his work. The liability otherwise is huge, not to even think about the cost of a recall.