desmondalie Posted November 4, 2008 Posted November 4, 2008 Anyone have a review/opinion on these wheels? Does anyone know who has stock and what the retail price is?
lord brush Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 They are superb wheels. Stiff, light, comfortable and predicatable in the winds. I got a pair to match the WH-7850-C50-TU's I have. I *ahem* may be selling a nearly new pair in the next few weeks when I've decided whether or not I'm selling my race bike I bought them in the UK before I moved out here, and I've trained on them probably about 10 times in dry weather. I'll keep you posted on my decision if you are still interested in the near future.
Johan Bornman Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 They are superb wheels. Stiff' date=' light, comfortable and predicatable in the winds. I got a pair to match the WH-7850-C50-TU's I have. cut cut cut cut [/quote'] How did you notice the difference in stiffness of these wheels over others? What makes them more comfortable than others wheels?
Wyatt Earp Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 They are superb wheels. Stiff' date=' light, comfortable and predicatable in the winds. I got a pair to match the WH-7850-C50-TU's I have. ?cut cut cut cut ? [/quote'] ? How did you notice the difference in stiffness of these wheels over others? ? What makes them more comfortable than others wheels? ? ? As much as this might amaze you, others are entitled to an opinion as well. The dude spent time typing his response and you want to over analyze it all. C'mon play the ball man, you are not an expert on ALL levels.
lord brush Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I've been cycling/ racing for 24 years on n off, so I have ridden a fair few wheels in my time I guess the carbon laminate faring goes some way to absorbing road 'buzz'- especially on the roads over here which are far less forgiving than those in the UK. My old Ksyriums feel much harsher. The hubs are extremely well engineered also, though they do take a while to bed-in as they are a bit sticky out of the box...
Johan Bornman Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 I've been cycling/ racing for 24 years on n off' date=' so I have ridden a fair few wheels in my time I guess the carbon laminate faring goes some way to absorbing road 'buzz'- especially on the roads over here which are far less forgiving than those in the UK. My old Ksyriums feel much harsher. The hubs are extremely well engineered also, though they do take a while to bed-in as they are a bit sticky out of the box... [/quote'] My question was simple, how did you notice the difference in stiffness and how did you notice the difference in comfort? You attempted to answer the latter one by saying that the carbon laminate fairing removes road buzz, but avoided the former by citing your tenure on a bike. The hub engineering story is a red herring. You can do better than that. Considering that the radial deflection of a wheel is in the order of 0,05mm and the compliance of a tyre is as much as 5mm, complilance of your backside on a saddle about 4mm, how do you explain that you can feel 0,05mm difference between different wheels. This is the thickness of a sheet of printer paper. Ride over that and tell me you can feel the ridge.
Wyatt Earp Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Lord brush I am surpised you took the bait. You have posted here and you were trolled in order for a new debate to begin. There is a behavioral pattern in individuals who love to swim upstream. These persons tend to have a clever answer for everything and tend to say things to create sensationalism. This is the ONLY way they can become legends. L brush, you might not have the technical knowledge to justify your first post but is should be noted that you gave an honest opinion, for this you should be thanked. I will stick a limb out and say that many people would like to post in the TECH Q&A but refrain from doing so because of the fear of being over analysed or nitpicked. Persons that know everything don't exist, it is a red herring, saying that there is no such thing as a well engineered hub, is an uneducated comment as this is not backed up by scientific fact, I guess we could call this comment a red herring. This will become yet another fruitless thread in which the up stream swimmers will try and justify their stupid claims so that they can go to bed at night thinking that they are standing on the shoulders of giants. It must be real comforting feeding the layman BS and feeling like an expert. My rant for the day.
Wyatt Earp Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Considering that the radial deflection of a wheel is in the order of 0' date='05mm and the compliance of a tyre is as much as 5mm, complilance of your backside on a saddle about 4mm, how do you explain that you can feel 0,05mm difference between different wheels. [/quote'] Yaaaaaawn Luckily science or numbers can't explain sensory satisfaction.
Flat tu lance 1 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 BORING!! Lord Brush I hope you enjoy the wheels its always good to hear from someone who has had first hand experience rather than listen to someone that is trying to analyse from a spec sheet.
Flat tu lance 1 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Test for tomorrow shave 0.05mm of my ass
Wyatt Earp Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Test for tomorrow shave 0.05mm of my ass Don't wear your Assos.
Flat tu lance 1 Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Ah no this is going to be very scientific. Pinch test first to see if my butt is more than 4mm compliant if so the wife is going to take a cheese grater to it until exactly 0.05mm is removed. Am I boring you yet?
lord brush Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 Indeed, I've seen such behaviour on other certain US and UK cycling forums and I guess I should've known better Still, I've decided to have a lay-off from road biking/ racing for a while so guess I wont miss trolls n the like.... Anyone who is interested in buying a 56cm Addict with Wh7850-C50-TU's and/ or the aforementioned C25-CL's watch the classifieds Argus race entry also up for grabs.....
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