montyzuma

Just a warning - when I went on to the Hub this evening my antivirus software picked up multiple attacks from the Hub webpage of "Trojan.Giframe". Suggest admin has a look at it, and those of you without autoprotection scan your computers.

Anyone else experiencing the same? Have timed out 3 times trying to post a for sale pic.....

Well a significant number of the top riders in the world buy their wheels from him. How many use yours Johan? Is it just instinctive to diss someone before finding out specifics?

Thug, what do Bearing Man sting you for them ? montyzuma2008-07-21 04:13:24

UCI regulation 1.3.023. For road time trial competitions and for the following track competitions: individual and team pursuit, kilometre and 500m, an extension may be added to the steering system. The distance between the vertical line passing through the bottom bracket axle and the extremity of the handlebar may not exceed 75cm, with the other limits set in article 1.3.022 (B,C,D) remaining unchanged. A support for the elbows or forearms is permitted (see diagram <<Structure (1B)>>). <?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> For road time trial competitions, controls or levers fixed to the handlebar extension may extend beyond the 75cm limit as long as they do not constitute a change of use, particularly that of providing an alternative hand position beyond the 75cm mark. For the track and road competitions covered by the first paragraph, the distance of 75cm may be increased to 80cm to the extent that this is required for morphological reasons; ?morphological reasons? should be taken as meaning anything regarding the size or length of the rider's body parts. A rider who, for this reason, considers that he needs to make use of a distance between 75 and 80 cm must inform the commissaires' panel at the moment that he presents his licence. In such cases the comissaires' panel may carry out the following test: ensuring that the angle between the forearm and upper arm does not exceed 120? when the rider is in a racing position.

Now that everyone has to licence, why not have a system that your licence also gets you a number for the season? Far simpler & less hassle all round, less cost to organisers, less time wasted by competitors etc etc etc. If running and caneing can get it right, cycling should be able to as well.

Popeye, don't listen to the naysayers. They work very well and you don't bob up & down the whole time - the spring strength keeps you at the top of the stroke until you hit a bump. My partner used one on Epic & it worked like a bomb. You don't want the SX though - that's the short travel road version. You want the XCR carbon. Check them all out on the USE website http://www.use1.com/

Cruxie, personal attacks don't achieve anything. I have a good life thanks. "Drug use is 3-5 years ahead of doping controls". That's a sweeping statement. However in this case we are not talking about some undetectable wonder drug - we are talking about good old-fashioned testerone, which has been around a long time, the physiology of which is well understood and which is detectable. I don't dispute that exogenous testosterone may have been found in the sample. I do question why it didn't show up in other tests taken in the immediate period surrounding the positive test, as there is no point in taking it on a single occasion. Think a bit. Or is it less hassle to just write it off as a doping mistake?

Porky, where's the witch hunt? I'm simply pointing out that many people on this forum seem quite happy to condemn a man based on hearsay physiology which they don't fully understand. It's not the first time I've taken a similar stance. Yes, testosterone is constantly produced and rapidly metabolised. Yes, finding exogenous testosterone makes ratios irrelevant. But testosterone (and all steroids) do not have a rapid onset of action and must be given for a sustained period to have an effect. Conversely, taking exogenous steroids significantly depresses natural steroid production for a prolonged period thereafter. If he's a doper why no testosterone in the other 7 tests during the tour? He had a negative test the day prior to testing positive and a further negative test two days later. That means he could only have taken an oral, transcutaneous cream or transdermal patch preparation, all of which deliver testosterone which is rapidly metabolised, and might be out of his system 48 hours later, but WHY would he take an overnight dose when it would have no short-term effect, and potentially inhibit natural steroid production thereafter? Where there is no logical explanation the question must be asked how else this exogenous testosterone could have ended up in the sample. There are enough inconsistencies and agendas in this whole episode to make that question very interesting indeed. I have no saak with Bikemonster - he has given an accurate and balanced explanation of the testing procedure, but it fails to answer the logical question as to why tests before and after the positive test were normal. I have absolutely no saak with LBie who makes the point "I think we are all just as guilty as those attention grabbing journos by discussing the posible guilt of a contender based on hearsay. Wait for the facts and hearings, then we are free to comment on the facts." Hear Hear! Cheats and doper must be caught and punished - I'll be first to cheer when its proven. But to tar every exceptional achievement with the "must be doping" brush and to condemn people on suspicion where the logic just doesn't fit is suurtiet in the extreme. montyzuma2006-10-05 20:47:08

Which medical standpoint would that be?

Icycling, your superdrug theory has two small flaws. 1. Why didn't the superdrug cause the abnormal testosterone ratio to show up previously? and 2. This superdrug that causes the body to produce excess testosterone would cause it to produce ENDOGENOUS testosterone in physiological ratios.

Given the flak they've received I would be very surprised if they hadn't - a positive earlier result would vindicate them, and McQuaid would leak that PDQ to insulate his ass.

Bikemonster, so why didn't the exogenous testosterone show up in the test done 2 days prior to the positive test?

Widget, your posts show a complete lack of understanding as to what the testosterone test measures. I find it fascinating that so many people have such dogmatic opinions when they don't even understand the underlying physiology.

So, Widget, explain away the fact that tests two days on either side of the "positive" test were negative. And don't believe that commercial labs don't make mistakes - the incidence is low but ALL labs have spurious results.