sludge and joe's mixed...

[davetapson]

Hi guys

 

Having now been using a Joe's tubeless conversion for the last six months after being bullied convinced by h-r  to convert, I'm a real fan. 

 

Did bike4beasts end of April and by the end of the race had little damp patches all over the tyre where thorns had penetrated, not to mention the 20 odd thorns still embedded in each wheel.

 

Now what they don't tell you about tubeless, is that when you get a decent sized puncture, you get sealant sprayed all over your while your tyre waits for a big enough chunk of grunge in the sealant to seal the hole. 

 

At bike4beasts I had sealant from the back wheel spray all over me several times, and at Magalies Monster, had it spray out of the front wheel in impressive quantities.  On the dirt road descent of all places.

 

So, I'm probably due for a sealant refill...  Sludge has a goodly concentration of rubbery bits in it - I suspect it would be good at quickly sealing the bigger holes. 

 

So, after all this:

1.  Does anyone know if Sludge is better than Joe's / Stan's?

2.  Can you mix the two, or do I need to clean the one out before I add the other...?

3.  What about Oko?

davetapson2008-06-02 05:14:45

[Azonic]

I've mixed Slime Tubeless and Stans/Joes before. Doesn't really do it for me. I prefer plain Stans/Joes. With the slime in it becomes to watery and there are permanent wet patches on the tread.

[Li Mu Bai]

Actually there is nothing that will seal a really big hole. You actually need to use a tubeless puncture kit for mtb, which has a plug system, much like they use to patch a slow puncture in a car tire.

its quite simple to use, had a puncture like you discribe whilst doing the Graskop race, sprayed all over my leg.

The Joes works really well for small thorns etc. Stans the same. you do need to reapply some after 4-6months though.

I have found that in the sludge product, the latex particles all harden into a plastic like coat on the inside of my road tube after a while, so that was not the best sealent.