Johan Bornman Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 I've rebuild my ksyriums with new rim and spokes.The dude who built it also used some kind of greyish loctite/glue/whatever. When I took it for retension' date=' some of the nipples broke off.Now they're useless.[/quote'] Kriek, PM me or Onetime for a possible fix/solution to your/our problem. Do share your secret.
Wannabe Posted October 6, 2008 Author Posted October 6, 2008 JB, rather not at this stage, Gonna experiment on my own wheel AFTER the 94.7. Should it be successfull, I'll gladly share it. Should you not here about it again, know then that it was a failure.
Overlord Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 I've rebuild my ksyriums with new rim and spokes.The dude who built it also used some kind of greyish loctite/glue/whatever. When I took it for retension' date=' some of the nipples broke off.Now they're useless.[/quote'] Kriek, PM me or Onetime for a possible fix/solution to your/our problem. Do share your secret. But you have all the tricks of the trade.
Pocketbikes Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Johan will be the first to tell you that you never stop learning and there are always new solves to old problems. Well, at least this is what I believe...
Wannabe Posted February 9, 2009 Author Posted February 9, 2009 OK Guys, got my wheel fixed without having to buy a new rim, or spend 100's of my hard earned money. Only common sense and about R65.00 for a new spoke. Step 1). Cut the spoke off just above the nipple, using a sidecutter. Cut the remaining section of nipple flat against rim and filed flat so as to remove any burrs.Step 2). Removed the now, rolling/rattling around inside my rim, remaining piece of the spoke by turning rim so that hole where valve goes through is at bottom, and lightly bumping the rim on the carpet until the offending item fell out. Step 3). Soaked the seized nipple with acetone everynight for about a week to dissolve glue/whatever was used in first place.Step 4). Soaked the seized nipple with penetrating oil everynight for about a week to lubricate between nipple and rim.Step 5). Wrapped rim in cloth and mounted just tight enough to hold it (so as not to bend the rim inwards) in a bench vise. Took a allen key just thick enough to fit into hole vacated by spoke and lightly tapped it in until it seated deep enough to turn without slipping.Step 6). With care turned nipple clockwise and counterclockwise untill seal was broken. Turned remaining piece of nipple out.Step 7). Inserted newly purchased spoke/nipple. Carefully screwed it into place and tensioned spoke.Step 8). Refitted tube and tyre onto rim, rim into bike, and went out for a test ride of 50km.Step 9). Got home, put bike into stand, spin wheel around, observed no obvious buckle/out of true.Step 10). Cracked open a bottle of favourite frostie and congratulated myself on job well doneWannabe2009-02-10 00:50:02
Johan Bornman Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Well done!Loctite on a wheel is a pain in the arse. Glue is a crime. I hope you know who the culprit is so you can superglue his ...nevermind. I did a similar operation on Dirtbreath's Ksyrium type wheel the other day. I thought I was clever and wanted to use an Easy-out stud remover. Unfortunately, the Ksyrium nipple is left hand threaded so the easy out doesn't work in that direction. We then used some other sophisticated tool called a plier in Boksburg. We didn't celebrate with beer afterwards though, perhaps he should come back so we can finish the job. Give me standard nipples and spokes any day.
Dirtbreath Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Well done!Loctite on a wheel is a pain in the arse. Glue is a crime. I hope you know who the culprit is so you can superglue his ...nevermind. I did a similar operation on Dirtbreath's Ksyrium type wheel the other day. I thought I was clever and wanted to use an Easy-out stud remover. Unfortunately' date=' the Ksyrium nipple is left hand threaded so the easy out doesn't work in that direction. We then used some other sophisticated tool called a plier in Boksburg. We didn't celebrate with beer afterwards though, perhaps he should come back so we can finish the job. Give me standard nipples and spokes any day.[/quote'] We did have your fine coffee and those home-made muffins.
hot stuff Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Ok JB is there any thing one can do as the only owner of ur wheels, to prevent this sort of thing happening, as a maintenance thing .
Johan Bornman Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Ok JB is there any thing one can do as the only owner of ur wheels' date=' to prevent this sort of thing happening, as a maintenance thing .[/quote'] If I was cursed with these wheels, I'd make the best of a bad situation by regularly (once a month at least) manipulating the nipples back and forth to keep them loose. You should have received a little flying saucer type nipple spanner when you got your wheels. Simply plug it onto each spoke and turn it 1/4 turn left and then 1/4 turn right again. If they feel tight, apply a little bit of oil. The problem is generally not between the nipple and rim but nipple and spoke. That's all I can think of. But if you want to be absolutely sure, I recommend a monthly rebuild. I'll do it for you on a contract basis - an annual fee for 11 rebuilds (we sckip Christmas). See it as health insurance for your wheels. I'll get my lawyer to draw up a contract for you.
hot stuff Posted February 9, 2009 Posted February 9, 2009 Ok JB is there any thing one can do as the only owner of ur wheels' date=' to prevent this sort of thing happening, as a maintenance thing .[/quote'] If I was cursed with these wheels, I'd make the best of a bad situation by regularly (once a month at least) manipulating the nipples back and forth to keep them loose. You should have received a little flying saucer type nipple spanner when you got your wheels. Simply plug it onto each spoke and turn it 1/4 turn left and then 1/4 turn right again. If they feel tight, apply a little bit of oil. The problem is generally not between the nipple and rim but nipple and spoke. That's all I can think of. But if you want to be absolutely sure, I recommend a monthly rebuild. I'll do it for you on a contract basis - an annual fee for 11 rebuilds (we sckip Christmas). See it as health insurance for your wheels. I'll get my lawyer to draw up a contract for you. Ok thanks I await ur contract for 11 months
Gman1834 Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 Ok JB is there any thing one can do as the only owner of ur wheels' date=' to prevent this sort of thing happening, as a maintenance thing .[/quote'] If I was cursed with these wheels, I'd make the best of a bad situation by regularly (once a month at least) manipulating the nipples back and forth to keep them loose. You should have received a little flying saucer type nipple spanner when you got your wheels. Simply plug it onto each spoke and turn it 1/4 turn left and then 1/4 turn right again. If they feel tight, apply a little bit of oil. The problem is generally not between the nipple and rim but nipple and spoke. That's all I can think of. But if you want to be absolutely sure, I recommend a monthly rebuild. I'll do it for you on a contract basis - an annual fee for 11 rebuilds (we sckip Christmas). See it as health insurance for your wheels. I'll get my lawyer to draw up a contract for you. when building the wheel with new spokes shouldn't one add some dry lube between the nipple and the spoke, to limit the amount of dust and stuff from entering the cavity in the first place.
Gman1834 Posted February 10, 2009 Posted February 10, 2009 oops triple post... Gman18342009-02-10 05:14:40
Wannabe Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks Guys.Mighty relieved myself that it worked. Wanted to photo document whole process, but once I got going, the camera was all forgotten. SORRY. BIG THUMBS UP TO ONETIME WHO PUT ME ONTO THIS IDEA.
Wannabe Posted February 10, 2009 Author Posted February 10, 2009 Well done!Loctite on a wheel is a pain in the arse. Glue is a crime. I hope you know who the culprit is so you can superglue his ...nevermind. I did a similar operation on Dirtbreath's Ksyrium type wheel the other day. I thought I was clever and wanted to use an Easy-out stud remover. Unfortunately' date=' the Ksyrium nipple is left hand threaded so the easy out doesn't work in that direction. We then used some other sophisticated tool called a plier in Boksburg. We didn't celebrate with beer afterwards though, perhaps he should come back so we can finish the job. Give me standard nipples and spokes any day.[/quote'] Tried that myself at first. Came to same result. Thats when the "Boer maak 'n plan" bit came out with the allen key.
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