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PLEASE HUBBERS-DO NOT GET PERSONAL OR MENTION DOPERS NAMES ON THIS THREAD LET US KEEP IT CONSTRUCTIVE-

 

 

 

My suggestion:

 

CSA adds a drop down page on their website where they set out their stance on doping and a few items on their intentions to ensure we do not carry on in the current manner(3 cases within the past 7 months).Recify their current laws which seems flawed re-handling of doping cases.

 

 

 

A rider list of all Pro-Elite riders were they put sifgnature to paper stating their adherence to the anti-doping program.

 

 

 

Proposal/Request/Plea or what ever we want to call it.

 

 

 

1: All Pro-Elite riders to sign a pledge as part of their contract with CSA NOT to dope.(This is part of their contract hence it becomes a legal obligation on their part to steer clear.

 

 

 

2: All owners/team managers etc of Pro=Elite teams to do same on behalf of their clubs/teams which would then give them the right to sue said rider for breach of contract if they dope. In so doing they recover part of the investment in said rider and can sue for future loss of earning as well.

 

 

 

3: All Pro-elite teams to sign a pledge not to employ a rider onto their team who was suspended for doping in the last five years thus ridding the peleton of such persons.

 

 

 

 

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PLEASE HUBBERS-DO NOT GET PERSONAL OR MENTION DOPERS NAMES ON THIS THREAD LET US KEEP IT CONSTRUCTIVE-

My suggestion:

3: All Pro-elite teams to sign a pledge not to employ a rider onto their team who was suspended for doping in the last five years thus ridding the peleton of such persons.

this might have to change to something like '...whilst being under investigation'

 

If you are suspended / banned and you sat your banishment out, further sanctions as in 3 above could be construed to be discriminative.

 

I think the idea is to prevent somebody from signing with a new team while results are being confirmed. If initial indications point to a positive test, that should be reason enough to suspend the rider/notify the current team about the results pending the final outcome (and hearing!)
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MAllo, if you read your licence it says:

"the holder agrees to abide by the regulations of the UCI and of the National Gederations.  He accepts antidoping and blood tests provided by the rules and the sole competence of the CAS.

 

So yes it is done.

 

Secondly, after agreeing to the above, if you are caught doping, you could be sued for FRAUD.  Yes your team, and competitor could argue in court, you misrepresented yourself and denied them income, and in some cases injured their good name.  (Crimina Injuri).

 

However, the reasons this does not happen, is that team owner ext may/may not be hiding things that may/ may not further embarass them in court if it came out.  Also the expenses of a good lawyer far outweigh the cost of a bad name.

 

I agree if someone is under investigation, he should be suspended, for the duration of the investigation.  Also if a team manager suspects a rider, he should bar that rider from riding in team colours until the suspicion is investigated.

 

If a rider has served his sentence then he should be allowed to ride again.  However, for his first few races his name should be "loaded" for random selection (If they put names in a hat his name should be put in two or three times, in increase the probability of selection)

 

Lastly, riders should be allowed to nominate riders in the peleton for dope testing.  So if a rider suspects a team mate or competitor he can put the name forward to the doping authorities.  (Sort of democracy where if riders from three diferent teams finger you, you get tested).

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