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  1. Compliant, not complaint.
  2. I 'Liked this' reluctantly. This is the start of the effects we are all going to see. And our learned friend GrahamS2 puts his finger on it too - NZ is not going to be a Covid19-free destination, because that is incompatible with remaining Covid19-free. Believe me, we are in deeeeeep poopie and the pain is only starting to become apparent to the complaint masses. I was talking with a neighbour yesterday who was telling me how miserable NZ was after 2008 (because international tourism took a big knock then). Right now, 2008 is looking like a freakin birthday present compared to what's coming. Everything you own (especially property but also cars, bikes and boats, etc) will be worth a lot less and you might find yourself with lower income and far greater debt. If, that is, you're among the fortunate still in work. If you're less fortunate, things are looking bleak. By the way, who around here reckons 'buy local' is a good idea? Because if you do, I have some more bad news for you...
  3. Better odds than winning the lottery I suppose, even if the outcome is probably gonna be worse. Another thing, will be interesting to see how saved we are when our flu season arrives and the cupboard is bare.
  4. The election may be too far away for Labour to win. The warm post coital glow of 'beating' something which may not have needed all that much of a whipping in the first place will likely give way to the cold hard reality of mass unemployment, plummeting house prices and advancing inflation. As you so rightly say, no effect without side effect. Some are saying 'it's the economy AND health, stupid'. But when it comes down to brass tacks, it's JUST the economy, stupid.
  5. Go to Bunnings for the prices, to Mitre10 for the service...
  6. Don't be so dismissive of critical thought at a time when it has never been more important. Ardern has never been much of a leader, in opposition nor in government. It is easy to destroy, it is far harder to build. The economic windfalls? We shall see about that. Our economy IS destroyed ALREADY and the after effects of closing down our economy for a disease that more than 99 percent of those infected will survive, will only be seen in the next 6 to 12 months and more. Remember, when you take 'expert advice', it is best to take advice not only from those who tell you what you want to hear, but also from those who tell you what you don't want to hear.
  7. Hahah I absolutely LOVE the classic thick Safa accent. Did you see that clip on WhatsApp 'Carte Branch' with the okes from Kommetjie in charge of load shedding? Man I smaaked the Cape Town stoner accent stukkend made me laugh.
  8. Didn't really think I had a kiwi twang until I went back to SA for the first time and got relentlessly mocked for it. But the kiwi twang is a lot like south coast KZN,what with bug punk pugs, fush and chups, pork my cor in the guhroge and all that. These days I make a conscious effort to say 'ekse' 'bru' and 'kiff' etc, whereas I guess in the early days it was the other way round to try show how in choon ekse you were with the locals. Yes, new immigrants are complete ingrates, myself included. And yes, it annoys the daylights out of everyone else when you start with some accent nonsense because the obvious explanation is pretentiousness. And yes, it probably is pretentious. Was quite funny when we were at a game farm somewhere near Vanderbijlpark, a young Afrikaans woman working there was thoroughly enamoured with my two sons' kiwi accent. Of course to me I don't hear an accent at all.
  9. Yeah I'm on to you. With lockdown, every day is Friday, right?
  10. Looks like we got ourselves a badass here folks.
  11. Sorry Steven the list was representative not comprehensive. Pretty sure I should have included DawieO there too, he's one the smartest mofos I know, so take comfort.
  12. Decisions have consequences and these ones have very serious ones for all of us....and bear in mind Jaconda said she decided to move to lockdown when an overseas friend of hers said 'do it now'. Hardly the basis for making such far reaching decisions (but then, let's also bear in mind that Jacinda hasn't ever had a real job, as a career politician she has only ever taken a paycheck from the public).
  13. Here's some sober reading for us new New Zealanders: Is virus elimination the worst policy decision ever? New Zealand is embarked on a world-leading effort to “totally eradicate the virus”, while other countries have settled for containment or suppression or “flattening the curve”. It is sobering that no other country has yet chosen to follow our lead. While the Prime Minister’s brave endeavour has attracted much international admiration, it may well prove to be the worst policy decision made by any Government in our history. Eradication requires mind-boggling expenditure of both Government and private sector funds. It will precipitate a devastating economic recession and dole queues not seen since the Great Depression. It requires our borders to remain closed to the world indefinitely and thereby mandates the decimation of our tourism industry. On a net basis, eradication will cost the lives of many New Zealanders: “When economies contract, life expectancy declines, due to, among other things, a rise in poverty, violent crime and suicide. During the global financial crisis of 2007– 09, the suicide rate in the United States increased by 4.8% according to the Center for Disease Control and in Europe by 6.5% according to the World Health Organisation. Philip Thomas, professor of risk management at Bristol University, has calculated that if the UK’s GDP falls by more than 6.4% per person as a result of the lockdown, more years of life will be lost than saved, using [the Imperial College] estimates.” This quote is from the UK, where Covid deaths are running at 237 per million – a world away from Southern Hemisphere countries where average deaths to date are less than 5 per million. In the Eastern Hemisphere (New Zealand, Australia, Indonesia, Singapore, Taiwan, Japan) the average is only 2 per million. What is a QALY? Most Government expenditure is directed to enlarging the quantity or quality of its citizens’ lives. Although demand for healthcare may be almost infinite, no Government can spend all its resources in one sector. There are also strong and reasonable demands for welfare, policing, education, defence, housing, transport, justice, etc. So how can all the necessary trade-offs be planned and allocated on a rational basis, rather than by impulse or by powerful people choosing ‘favourites’? When a choice must be made between spending marginal dollars on either (say) a life-saving traffic barrier or an additional Pharmac medicine, that decision-making process must be both objective and consistent. Similar choices arise in allocating limited healthcare funding as between physical health and mental health. Throughout most of the world, the solution to these dilemmas is to construct an artifice called a quality-adjusted life-year (QALY) and to assign it a dollar value. This orthodox framework has guided the allocations in Government Budgets for many years. For New Zealand, the best available QALY proxy is one year’s official estimate of national disposable income per capita – which was $52,500 for the 2019 calendar year. So, if a pending coronavirus epidemic would cost us (say) 100,000 QALYs, it would be defensible for the Government to spend up to $5.25 billion to stop that from happening. If a Government was not prepared to spend that much on quarantines, it could be criticised for undervaluing human life. And if it spent more than that figure it would be just as bad – because we would be losing even more lives (ie quality-adjusted lives) in other areas than were being saved by the universal quarantine (Lockdown). Unlimited spend But has our Government been observing these important disciplines in the Corvid epidemic? Has its unprecedented splurge been proportionate or reckless? Is it pursuing an expensive cure that will prove worse than the disease? These are crucial questions that are being asked throughout the developed world. They are especially crucial in this country where the Government has debilitated the economy more than in any other country in the world. But they have not so far occupied much of the attention of the legacy media (or the Epidemic Response Committee) in New Zealand. It has been left to a think tank, the New Zealand Initiative, to enquire whether the Lockdown has been a provable over-reaction. Veteran economist Bryce Wilkinson inputs Covid morbidity and mortality data to the 2017 spreadsheet model constructed by five of New Zealand’s leading epidemiologists. His research note is brief and well worth reading in full. As might be expected, the model’s assumptions have many caveats – and Dr Wilkinson clearly has reservations about the model itself. His purpose is “to begin an exploration of trade-offs, not to provide an authoritative valuation”. The key finding from his modelling: “spending 6.1% of annual GDP might be justified if it saved the 33,600 Covid-19 deaths epidemiologists advised the Ministry of Health could result were the pandemic left “substantially uncontrolled.” Under the lower projection of 12,600 deaths, spending more than 3.7% of annual GDP could be excessive, even if success was assured. “ So, even if the Government was quite sure it could prevent as many as 12,600 deaths from an uncontrolled epidemic, it would not be able to justify spending $11.47 billion (3.7% of $310 billion) to achieve that. This finding is a bit of a shock. The Government’s wage subsidy alone might exceed $12 billion and that is just one of a string of expensive initiatives that have been announced. And there are more to come. Clearly, the Government has already way overspent on its efforts to save 12,600 lives. Impressing the world In March, the Minister of Health was advised by the model’s authors that 6 modelled scenarios showed an uncontrolled Covid could claim between 7 and 14,400 lives. The Government did not recognise that the most vulnerable lives (over 70s) have few QALYs left. It did not check the absurd assumptions behind the figures. It apparently preferred the worst case scenario over the most likely scenario – which was close to the 12,600 lives considered by Dr Wilkinson. Whether the modelling was right or wrong, that formal advice provided Ministers with a clear benchmark of about $12 millionas the upper bound of the range of spending that could be justified. But then the Cabinet took a political decision to zoom right through that benchmark and spend far more. Suddenly, money was no object. Nor was the Bill of Rights. How did this happen? If the level and duration of coerced restrictions was not based on a careful balancing of QALYs, then what was its basis? Was it perhaps to extend the crisis out towards the September election? We simply don’t know. There was clearly a certain glamour in New Zealand “going where no country had gone before” and being the very first country to totally eliminate a coronavirus. The Prime Minister is well skilled in the politics of drama and the lure of global affirmation. Did the recurring opportunity for world leadership have a certain ring to it? Was it the draw of political theatre and the opportunity to stride the world stage? Perhaps the Prime Minister glimpsed “her nuclear-free moment” yet again?
  14. Yep, correct. Having a different opinion is more than frowned upon and if you provide evidence for your views, the evidence tends to be dismissed out of hand because it doesn't fit the narrative.
  15. Highly relevant comment from National MP Simon O'Connor: We also have calls for people to not be political. This is just an excuse to silence people. In these times where government has enormous power, people should absolutely be political. People should question and challenge every decision made. We must remember the enormity of decisions that are literally being made by just a few people. Parliament is suspended; people are locked in their homes; police are stopping people doing what used to be the most simplest of activities; businesses are by in large closed; travel is restricted; certain media have been banned; press conferences are highly choreographed with journalists already protesting their inability to ask questions … the list goes on. If there was a time for people to be political, it is now. So beware anyone saying ‘don’t be political’. What they are saying is that they do not want any critique of their actions.
  16. These millennials thinking a price crash will get them into a house are horribly deluded. When you're staring down the barrel of 26 percent unemployment, economic depression and prices going down, well, there are structural issues. Including buying in only to see another 10% drop and suddenly you're saddled with your own negative equity rather than having a few tens of grand in the bank...
  17. https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-cracks-in-coronavirus-coalition.html Read this for amusement, if nothing else. Author is a professional director and a not so quiescent woman.
  18. Tell you what, those who do not own a home are in a fortunate position right now, because the coming wave of negative equity is going to hurt big time. There's nothing quite like being trapped in your own home both physically and financially. It could be 10 percent, it could be 20, it could be more. We're all going to find out the hard way just exactly what a stuffed economy really means - and believe me, an economy is directly linked to health and wellness. It isn't something abstract, it feeds clothes and houses us.
  19. Lives have value, but not all have the same value. From Harrison's paper: Focus of deaths needs to be supplemented with an adjustment for life years lost Not all deaths have the same social cost. The death of a 90 year old can be sad, but the death of a child or young adult is almost always a tragedy. Burden of disease estimates often adjust for the number of life years lost and this adjustment should be made in assessments of the benefits of intervention options. All of New Zealands nine deaths have been over 70 years old and had underlying health issues. This in line with international experience, which suggests that 85-90 percent of deaths have been in the 70+ age group. The true burden of the epidemic can be calculated by applying an factor of around 0.15 to the number of account for life years lost. 500 deaths becomes, 75 on an adjusted basis, and can be compared with the 350 lives lost on the roads each year.
  20. They had to pivot to 'elimination' because there was no curve to flatten. See here https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/04/21/elimination-strategy-a-bullet-to-the-stomach-for-nz/ And remember the piece from an EPIDEMIOLOGIST, someone who studies infectious diseases and not that pink haired princess who is a MICROBIOLOGIST, who dared suggest 'are we squashing a mosquito with a sledgehammer' (and faced massive opprobrium as a result). That was on Stuff a while ago; Siouxsie Wiles subsequently went at him with all kinds of ad hominems.
  21. Here is Ian Harrison's examination of the Treasury modelling. http://www.tailrisk.co.nz/documents/Corona.pdf Smart folk like Patches and Patham and Hayley and WP are likely to recognise, too, that modeling is just that: it is not the real world, it is a model, made by people, and therefore no more than an educated guess. How well educated rests on the soundness of the premises in the model, and it appears the premises in Treasury modelling weren't terrifically sound in the first instance. Once we've 'eliminated' coronavirus, when do we start adding up the bodies of those who will suicide as their life savings evaporate? When their businesses close? Their livelihoods ripped away from them? Because like night follows day, that is coming.
  22. I too have a soul powered by coffee and donuts where possible.
  23. This one small example shows up the immense problems which have always, always and everywhere, led to the abject failure of command and control economies. Bureaucrats, eager as they are with their clipboards and petty rules, cannot possibly hope to imagine all the scenarios, activities, exchanges, movements and actions of free men (and women, though the latter tend to be more quiescent), let alone the immensely complex interactions of a modern market economy. So now we have all manner of absurdities...like which business are and are not 'essential' (this one's easy: they're all essential, or they would not exist in the first place), which activities are OK and which are verboten. This whole thing stinks, enormously. I don't like existing under a jackboot, no matter how well intentioned.
  24. Watch out for do-gooders, as Clive Staples Lewis noted back in the 40s (heroic second name there, Clive): “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
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