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  1. Dont understand why SAIDS took so long to release the results. They tested him at SA Champs on 6 Feb, then the lab assistant died in March (their excuse), so what did they do with the results in Apr, May, June ... Why sit on it to a week before TDF? WTF?
  2. Unlikely. More likely that he will test positive AGAIN
  3. So to use your example, the UCI will not give you a TUE for testosterone simply because it is performance-enhancing. Chris Boardman had the same issue and needed to use testosterone & had to retire as he was not allowed to use it even though he has a medical condition & required it for treatment. The drugs that Froome uses for his asthma is not performance-enhancing when used correctly to treat asthma. But lets say he decides to over-use his asthma drugs (Salbutamol or Ventolin) then in any event this would be picked up on the regular dope tests. This happened back in 2002 when WADA picked up that Igor Gonzalez de Galdeano (who suffers from asthma) had higher than normal readings for Salbutamol. The point is that if the readings are not comparable with the regular use of asthma medicine then the rider will be disqualified. The controversy with Froome has nothing to do with his inhaler or asthma. The issue relates to the issuing of the TUE on the day that the Tour of Romandie started for prednisolone (which is a corticosteroid on the banned list) to treat his chest infection. I appreciate your point that if an athlete has a "disability" and needs chronic medicine / equipment in order to compete with other athletes then he should in any event not be competing as this would (according to you) automatically give him an "advantage" which he naturally did not have. I disagree and say that he may use the medicine / equipment provided that it doesn't provide an unfair advantage. As to what is fair/ unfair we have the banned substances list and the TUE application process, doping control etc. This is the same argument that Oscar Pistorius had when he wanted to compete at the London Olympics, ie did his prosthesis provide him with an unfair advantage over his competitors.
  4. Happened after this nonsense and she went a bit crazy on twitter
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  6. So in your post you have a picture of Seretide and say that "This is what is generally used as chronic asthma treatment.. " Then you say "Perhaps the foxair or similar has a banned substance donno.. haven't needed to find out." I understood the implication to be that he then uses "foxair" I don't think your post reads that "foxair" is the general chronic asthma med
  7. Foxair?? Where did you get that? He mentioned that he use Salbutamol, Ventolin and Fluticasone.
  8. Asthma inhalers ARE allowed per UCI. And TUE not always required http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI2/layout.asp?MenuId=MTU2ODY&LangId=1
  9. Michelle & Chris * apologies @froomesarms
  10. You must have gone ballistic when Oscar competed in the London Olympics ...
  11. What stupid example, remember we are talking unfair advantage outside of the rules of the sport here. Him using the inhaler is not unfair and doesnt give him any advantage
  12. Without the pump asthma sufferers cant compete, so in your argument all asthma sufferers are precluded from sport. Nice one. And as you point out, all the pump does is level the playing field, so your 'logic' escapes me...
  13. I think to you it is unfair because you dont understand asthma and believe that the inhaler makes you faster. The only effect it has on him is to open closed airways for him, he gains no advantage, just open airways. In your logic asthma sufferers cannot do sport, how cruel.
  14. Point is (1) its not unfair (2) its not against the rules
  15. Your arguments make no sense at all. Thats not cheating. Cheating in sports is the intentional breaking of rules in order to obtain an advantage over the other teams or players. His asthma pump is not a performance enhancing drug. You cannot penalise him simply because he has asthma!
  16. Whats a saddlebag? Fact: there is no asthmatic advantage in sport
  17. Here let me help you http://bit.ly/1rSLPcF
  18. Asthma doesn't give you an unfair advantage in sport
  19. Because he suffers from asthma and its a medical condition, he doesn't gain any advantage over another through the inhaler. So its irrelevant.
  20. Circle argument guys, the inhaler doesn't improve performance ...
  21. Under the UCI rules he was not allowed to take cortisone to treat the swelling because the route of administration of the cortisone was not permitted. The team had no choice in the matter.
  22. So the asthma sufferer must suffer & not be allowed to use an inhaler? Seriously?
  23. The fundamental fact is that ventolin inhalers have no effect on someone that does not have constricted airways. They cannot open your airways up any more than as big as they should be. That's why UCI / WADA doesn't care about them.
  24. You're confusing the issues, he needed the TUE for prednisone to get better. He doesn't need a TUE for the inhaler generally, the UCI rules are clear when you need TUE for asthma inhaler: THERAPEUTIC USE EXEMPTION What is a Therapeutic Use Exemption? Riders, like all others, may have illnesses or injuries which require them to take particular medications. If the medication which you need to treat an illness or medical condition is included in the Prohibited List, you must apply for a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) if you wish to take the medication. After the UCI Therapeutic Use Exemption Committee has reviewed the application, you may be given authorization to take the needed medicine. 2. IF YOU NEED TO USE BETA-2 AGONISTS FOR ASTHMA Submitting a TUE for the use of Beta-2 Agonists for Asthma depends on the “drug” which is used to treat your asthma. Please pay attention to the substance which is included in your inhaler! 2a. Beta-2 agonists for asthma (Salmeterol /Salbutamol/Formoterol): you do not need to submit any TUE if you take inhaled Salmeterol, Salbutamol (up to a daily dose of 1600 μg) and/or Formoterol (up to a daily dose of 54 μg). 2b. Terbutaline or other Beta-2 agonist: If you take Terbutaline for the treatment of asthma, you must submit a TUE for Asthma and a full medical file to confirm the diagnosis of asthma and/or it’s clinical variants. The medical file should include: A detailed medical history and clinical review Lung function test with spirometry Bronchodilator response Bronchial provocation tests To assist your doctor in completing the correct tests, and providing the correct medical information, we suggest that he or she consults the WADA Guidelines on Asthma click here. If the TUE for Asthma is completed correctly with valid test results, the UCI TUE Committee may grant an approval for up to 4 years.
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