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  1. Happened after this nonsense and she went a bit crazy on twitter
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  3. So in your post you have a picture of Seretide and say that "This is what is generally used as chronic asthma treatment.. " Then you say "Perhaps the foxair or similar has a banned substance donno.. haven't needed to find out." I understood the implication to be that he then uses "foxair" I don't think your post reads that "foxair" is the general chronic asthma med
  4. Foxair?? Where did you get that? He mentioned that he use Salbutamol, Ventolin and Fluticasone.
  5. Asthma inhalers ARE allowed per UCI. And TUE not always required http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI2/layout.asp?MenuId=MTU2ODY&LangId=1
  6. Michelle & Chris * apologies @froomesarms
  7. You must have gone ballistic when Oscar competed in the London Olympics ...
  8. What stupid example, remember we are talking unfair advantage outside of the rules of the sport here. Him using the inhaler is not unfair and doesnt give him any advantage
  9. Without the pump asthma sufferers cant compete, so in your argument all asthma sufferers are precluded from sport. Nice one. And as you point out, all the pump does is level the playing field, so your 'logic' escapes me...
  10. I think to you it is unfair because you dont understand asthma and believe that the inhaler makes you faster. The only effect it has on him is to open closed airways for him, he gains no advantage, just open airways. In your logic asthma sufferers cannot do sport, how cruel.
  11. Point is (1) its not unfair (2) its not against the rules
  12. Your arguments make no sense at all. Thats not cheating. Cheating in sports is the intentional breaking of rules in order to obtain an advantage over the other teams or players. His asthma pump is not a performance enhancing drug. You cannot penalise him simply because he has asthma!
  13. Whats a saddlebag? Fact: there is no asthmatic advantage in sport
  14. Here let me help you http://bit.ly/1rSLPcF
  15. Asthma doesn't give you an unfair advantage in sport
  16. Because he suffers from asthma and its a medical condition, he doesn't gain any advantage over another through the inhaler. So its irrelevant.
  17. Circle argument guys, the inhaler doesn't improve performance ...
  18. Under the UCI rules he was not allowed to take cortisone to treat the swelling because the route of administration of the cortisone was not permitted. The team had no choice in the matter.
  19. So the asthma sufferer must suffer & not be allowed to use an inhaler? Seriously?
  20. The fundamental fact is that ventolin inhalers have no effect on someone that does not have constricted airways. They cannot open your airways up any more than as big as they should be. That's why UCI / WADA doesn't care about them.
  21. You're confusing the issues, he needed the TUE for prednisone to get better. He doesn't need a TUE for the inhaler generally, the UCI rules are clear when you need TUE for asthma inhaler: THERAPEUTIC USE EXEMPTION What is a Therapeutic Use Exemption? Riders, like all others, may have illnesses or injuries which require them to take particular medications. If the medication which you need to treat an illness or medical condition is included in the Prohibited List, you must apply for a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) if you wish to take the medication. After the UCI Therapeutic Use Exemption Committee has reviewed the application, you may be given authorization to take the needed medicine. 2. IF YOU NEED TO USE BETA-2 AGONISTS FOR ASTHMA Submitting a TUE for the use of Beta-2 Agonists for Asthma depends on the “drug” which is used to treat your asthma. Please pay attention to the substance which is included in your inhaler! 2a. Beta-2 agonists for asthma (Salmeterol /Salbutamol/Formoterol): you do not need to submit any TUE if you take inhaled Salmeterol, Salbutamol (up to a daily dose of 1600 μg) and/or Formoterol (up to a daily dose of 54 μg). 2b. Terbutaline or other Beta-2 agonist: If you take Terbutaline for the treatment of asthma, you must submit a TUE for Asthma and a full medical file to confirm the diagnosis of asthma and/or it’s clinical variants. The medical file should include: A detailed medical history and clinical review Lung function test with spirometry Bronchodilator response Bronchial provocation tests To assist your doctor in completing the correct tests, and providing the correct medical information, we suggest that he or she consults the WADA Guidelines on Asthma click here. If the TUE for Asthma is completed correctly with valid test results, the UCI TUE Committee may grant an approval for up to 4 years.
  22. There seems to be some confusion whether it was SKY rule or policy ... if it was a rule / policy why wasn't it well known or was it just something Brailsford said to Walsh in passing ... Seems clear that he needed the TUE to get better. And he's not on chronic TUE's all the time.
  23. IMO, he did the right thing in accordance with the rules laid down by UCI and what he knew at the time. Storm in a tea cup, its not as if he applied for TUE for EPO ...
  24. He got a TUE for prednisone for a chest infection at the Tour of Romandie. In 6 years he has applied for 2 TUE's - so I think its far removed from "...hiding behind a whole bunch of listed drugs ..."
  25. The point is that those things I mentioned doesn't increase performance. He followed UCI rules and doctor's advice on TUE and he & the SKY doctor wasn't aware of any SKY policy of not racing on TUE. In any event, he should not be blamed if the team decided to race him under a TUE and its in accordance with the rules.
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