Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

OOOOOH. Nice nice! How did you make it? Brined first, or just dry rub? In a marinade? How how how? As you can tell (and already know) I'm somewhat interested in food...

Oh btw - in the motor industry that damage would be called consequential damage and wouldn't be covered by the extended warranties at all. Try claiming for a busted steering rack when your power steering system blows. Sorry, related but consequential. Should have stopped when the chain broke.

Not silverback's fault at all. The chain is a wear and tear item and if it breaks it breaks. Not cool flaming silverback for their "lack of service" in this respect. Why did the chain break? Did you keep it lubricated and clean?

I tell you Vettes, the extra 5g killed me on the way up!

Handed it in for you!

Lol. I don't remember the legal threat pm my side... but I do remember backing TheV up pretty vociferously! I think it was just him that was threatened with legal action. Was in that XCO training thread when there was a request for a real mtber, and packages offered for "tailored" mtb specific training programs which weren't tailored at all... lol. As far as I remember, actually! Damn that was a hoot.

Naas and Janos have built a lekker business there with proper customer service practices. A lot of places could learn from them

In constantia, there's Epic Bike Shop. Superb service and workmanship Tokai - trail and tar. Also good wrenchies and a lekker shop to boot. You'll come out drooling for sure. Kenilworth area - Olympic have a fantastic selection of tools and other bits Crown cycles have a good selection of random bits and bobs - often with a very good deal Town - action - VERY good mechanics and the best place for new deals on a large variety of bikes and spares. Northern Suburbs - CWC There are more but those are the main ones.

What these okes all say. Take it off and set the limit screws properly.

No Dave, no attack. The tone of your requests has always been reasonable. I misunderstood your original q re constituted body & membership etc. Let me clarify. The draft constitution was supposed to come into play last year, just as Duane and Vince left tokai. That's when it was due to be signed by all the proposed committee members (me deon vince etc) before vince left and no longer was interested in the role or any role in tokai. Yes you are right in that it needed to be ratified through public meeting and only then would we be a properly constituted body that was able to take on members. My knowledge on this part of the process falls short though as Deon was the one on the coal face liaising with Meurant on the whole issue of the constitution and trying to get it in place as soon as possible. That's also why I needed to do the research I alluded to. I think Deon is the best person to answer the question in full though, but I know he is under severe deadline pressure at the moment and probably won't see this for a while... That's why I'm going to bring it to his attention and ask him to comment.

Deon knows more about that, having been involved from day one.

Yes it is now, yes and yes. First AGM was due later this year.

Tokai mtb before April 2012 was an unconstituted body. No need for a constitution and or Agm. It was there solely in name only

Not talking about this one, Duane. I'm talking about the confusion caused by the assertions that "there should have been ab Agm by now" when the constitution of tokai mtb isn't even a year old yet, and the TMMTBF is only just a year old. I know who called the moratorium. Meurant approved it. Big difference between requesting it in the first place.

Yiu have seen the post, Dave. It was the same as I sent the hogs as a group before the barrage of questions came through from the group. It dealt with the plans, b8ith past and oresent, within tokai and the things we need to remember when voting. Any perceived antagonism was only as a result of repeated received slights and accusations based on misinformation. Like the question re the AGM and why we haven't had one yet. I did some research last night. The forum as a whole (TMMTBF) only had its inaugural meetong in late 2012. Tokai MTB as it is now did not exist back then. So the first AGM for tokai mtb was indeed only necessary in the next 2 to 3 months.

Exactly the same way I feel, DJR. And IMO not nearly enough attention has been paid to your final point. The stakeholder. Who, ultimately, determines the final pace and / or nature of any trail work. New or maintenance.

+1 I think it comes from years and years of having his fingers inside people's jaws. One mis-step and SNAP!

LOL. Of the nominees (that I know of) there are only 2 of "average" height. That'd be a fun exercise...

Yeah. Vince and I have made peace (omega can attest) and despite our differences (not many tbh) we need to be able to work together for the good of tokai. Regardless Of the outcome of the elections.

Thanks Duane...

Actually sad I couldn't make it. There were still a few misconceptions that needed to be put straight. And yes, I did eventually want to go. But baby duty is baby duty.

Yeah Jimmy, that's right. Indeed you can. And indeed they can, if they wish.

Pleasure guys. It's been one of those days. Admin load together with fielding questions left right and centre has left me a bit drained. Energized, but drained at the same time!

HI All, It has been decided, in conjunction with Meurant Botha of AMARider, Rob Vogel of Table Mountain Bikers (partner in the larger Table Mountain Mountain Bikers Forum) Deon De Villiers (Chairman of Tokai MTB) Vince Muir, Richard Lord, Duane Bosch (members of the Interested and Affected Parties) & Myself (Vice Chair of Tokai MTB) that the nomination and voting process shall be as described below: - Interested parties will nominate their individual choice of 5 committee members WITHOUT portfolio selection, and send such nomination through to info@amarider.co.za BEFORE 17th FEBRUARY 17h00 - Shortlist of Nominees shall be shown at entry to the Chrysalis Academy, and a copy of the nominations list shall be handed to each attendee together with a brief bio of each Nominee - Each Nominee shall get a 2 minute window in which to justify their nomination to the Committee WITHOUT INTERRUPTIONS from the attendees - Attendees shall vote amongst themselves to for the 5 Nominees that they feel will represent them best, and be able to deal with PARKS (the main Stakeholder) as well as the MTB public. - The 5 Nominees who have the most amount of votes will form the EXCO (Executive Committee. - The EXCO shall thereafter determine how best to distribute the individual portfolios amongst themselves given each persons skillset, characteristics and strengths, at their first EXCO meeting. - The EXCO shall nominate the Chairman and Vice Chairman from the 5 EXCO members given the unique requirements of each position at the first EXCO meeting Note - The public will NOT be selecting individual persons for particular roles within the EXCO. This will be the role of the EXCO itself once the EXCO has been formed, and the strengths and weaknesses of each EXCO member have been assessed. If need be, the EXCO will nominate a Co-Opt member to make up any deficit in skills and / or expertise within the EXCO. This Co-Opt member will be a non-voting member of the committee, and will consult as an independent member as and when the EXCO deem necessary. The roles that persons within the EXCO will fill are: Public Relations Secretary Treasurer Parks Liaison Fund Raising DH / Gravity Rep All Mountain / Cross Country / Trail Rep The roles are able to be doubled up. For example, the EXCO member holding the position of PR officer may also be Parks Liaison and Chairman, or Secretary may also be Treasurer and DH Rep etc. etc. Unfortunately, given the sensitive nature of the elections process, it has been agreed that there will be no allowance for Proxy Votes. If a member of the public wishes to vote on the make-up of the committee, they MUST be present at the AGM on 18th February 2014. Please ensure that this is spread as far as is possible in order to ensure adequate representation for all members of the public who are not members of this forum, Twitter and Facebook. A copy of this notice will be posted at the majority of Local Bike Shops in order to ensure adequate circulation.

HI All, It has been decided, in conjunction with Meurant Botha of AMARider, Rob Vogel of Table Mountain Bikers (partner in the larger Table Mountain Mountain Bikers Forum) Deon De Villiers (Chairman of Tokai MTB) Vince Muir, Richard Lord, Duane Bosch (members of the Interested and Affected Parties) & Myself (Vice Chair of Tokai MTB) that the nomination and voting process shall be as described below: - Interested parties will nominate their individual choice of 5 committee members WITHOUT portfolio selection, and send such nomination through to info@amarider.co.za BEFORE 17th FEBRUARY 17h00 - Shortlist of Nominees shall be shown at entry to the Chrysalis Academy, and a copy of the nominations list shall be handed to each attendee together with a brief bio of each Nominee - Each Nominee shall get a 2 minute window in which to justify their nomination to the Committee WITHOUT INTERRUPTIONS from the attendees - Attendees shall vote amongst themselves to for the 5 Nominees that they feel will represent them best, and be able to deal with PARKS (the main Stakeholder) as well as the MTB public. - The 5 Nominees who have the most amount of votes will form the EXCO (Executive Committee. - The EXCO shall thereafter determine how best to distribute the individual portfolios amongst themselves given each persons skillset, characteristics and strengths, at their first EXCO meeting. - The EXCO shall nominate the Chairman and Vice Chairman from the 5 EXCO members given the unique requirements of each position at the first EXCO meeting Note - The public will NOT be selecting individual persons for particular roles within the EXCO. This will be the role of the EXCO itself once the EXCO has been formed, and the strengths and weaknesses of each EXCO member have been assessed. If need be, the EXCO will nominate a Co-Opt member to make up any deficit in skills and / or expertise within the EXCO. This Co-Opt member will be a non-voting member of the committee, and will consult as an independent member as and when the EXCO deem necessary. The roles that persons within the EXCO will fill are: Public Relations Secretary Treasurer Parks Liaison Fund Raising DH / Gravity Rep All Mountain / Cross Country / Trail Rep The roles are able to be doubled up. For example, the EXCO member holding the position of PR officer may also be Parks Liaison and Chairman, or Secretary may also be Treasurer and DH Rep etc. etc. Unfortunately, given the sensitive nature of the elections process, it has been agreed that there will be no allowance for Proxy Votes. If a member of the public wishes to vote on the make-up of the committee, they MUST be present at the AGM on 18th February 2014. Please ensure that this is spread as far as is possible in order to ensure adequate representation for all members of the public who are not members of this forum, Twitter and Facebook. A copy of this notice will be posted at the majority of Local Bike Shops in order to ensure adequate circulation.