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Why don't you consider a full suspension bike?

Hi Canadonis. Somebody has been sharing some inside info. I'll have aword with that man

Wanted to give a heads up for people to be careful when parking at the Tokai Arboretum parking lot. I went for a ride at 6h30 this morning and while I was gone, somebody smashed my side window to gain entry into my car. It seems that Tokai is been targeted

Thought I'd put this up there and see what the comments are!! http://tncw.org.za/brand%20images/tncw.gif Dear Chris Du Plessis, A concerned resident sent us this article from the Mountain Club of South Africa - Cape Town Section newsletter. "Cyclist Vigilance needed in Tokai forest area I had an incident early yesterday morning whereby somebody attempted to steal my mountain bike whilst I was riding to the Tokai forest, and I thought it might be wise to alert all NWs who might be able to warn other cyclists who do the same. The car approaches and beckons you closer almost to ask for directions, and then they attempt to steal your bike. I was approached on Spaansgemacht Rd outside Peddlars yesterday (Sunday), morning at 07h10, but as I had an uneasy feeling I turned and bolted, and thanks to the involvement of a passing motorist who came to my assistance, the other car drove away. The driver of this car was on his phone, most likely liaising with others in the vicinity. Two weeks back a friend of mine had a similar experience at the Manor House in the forest, and he was quick enough to dart back into the school and the guard at the boom would not let the car through. These guys have realized that there is value in modern mountain bikes, and it would be great if you could mention a warning in future correspondence to other cyclists. " http://www.tncw.org.za/UserFiles/Image/high.jpg Blow the whistle on CRIME. It has been proven that tip-offs do work! SMS them to 32211. Your anonymous tip-off line. To become a TNCW patroller please send an email to patrols@tncw.org.za 1. Remember: if you see suspicious behaviour the number to call immediately is 086 000 2669 . 2. REPORT ALL CRIME TO SAPS: LESS REPORTED INCIDENTS = LESS RESOURCES.The more cases that are opened, the more resources are allocated to our stations. Clickhere to obtain relevant contact details. Please also report incidents to crime@tncw.org.za / 072 565 5988 3. The TNCW telephone numbers is: 072 565 5988 (this is not an emergency number)- please leave a detailed message and a committee member will get back to you. 4. In the interest of neighbourliness, please print and pass this message on to those who do not receive the TNCW emails. Contact Us: ReportCrime | Patrols | Membership | Non Crime Related | Events Links: Disclaimer | Unsubscribe | News | Incidents of crime | Forums

I would love to be part of it but unfortunately my time is demanded by others. Thats one of the reason I'm really grateful for you guys giving up your time for my enjoyment when I can get it.

I was at Tokai on Saturday morning and saw the guys assembling for the trail build. I wanted to go over, introduce myself and chat but unfortunately life happens and I had to a pressing engagement to go to. I've been following this thread and have been noting the criticism that sometimes gets posted up here so I want to put my 2 cents worth. I've haven't been riding MTB's for that long. I'm a retreaded roadie and my competency level is between "shouldn't be there" and "Raging novice". However the high intensity of enjoyment and satisfaction I get as I gingerly pick my way down Vasbyt and the other single tracks is enormous and I always feel better after surviving another ride. For this reason, I have to thank, from the bottom of my heart, the guys who regularly give up their free time and own enjoyment to do the track maintenance so that palookas like me can experience the joy of single track. Thanks guys

One can also get them at Kirstenbosch gardens

I just received my sms and they think my name is Mathew!!!! Its not. Their database seems to have got its nickers in a knot

Ok. To summarise the message I got from all the relevant posts 1) R20 for 5 minutes work translates to R240 per hour (Most of the thread respondents felt thats fair) 2) My mistake was not to inquire up front before the work was done. 3) Ethically the LBS should have informed me of any charges up front. However it can be taken as said that any LBS can assume that anybody wanting any work done is prepared to pay for it. However small the job might be. Thanks again to all the people who put up constructive comments. Two great tips also came out of this thread 1) Cut off a valve cap when pumping up at a garage 2) Screw the valve adaptor to the "piepetjie" to avoid loss at critical times. I've written them down. Thanks guys

Good to hear that. I had a great time exploring the routes around the George dam. Next time I come up there maybe we can get together and give each other a big hug?

Probably time to put this topic to bed. Thanks to all those guys who posted up constructive and informative comments. Much appreciated. To all those who missed the point of the topic completely. You don't know who you are but I had some good chuckles at your posts. They were also appreciated for different reasons. I love the hub

Nobody works for free. That's called wellfare. If you don't want to pay , learn to do it yourself and stop whining about R20 @ Spark. Hmm.. I had the idea that welfare was defined as getting money for free without having to work for it. Never mind. Thanks for your most eloquent post.Your message was loud and clear. I will definitely take it with me in future. No more whining from me

@tunariaan and others Thanks for the advice. As I mentioned previously, I have learnt from this experience and I will most certainly change my attitude in future. Not only in George but in other places (including Cape Town) as well. If I have put all the LBS in George in a bad light, that certainly wasn't my intention as I'm sure they give excellent service. In fact this particular LBS did an extremely competent job for his R20 labour charge. Its worth repeating, This post is all about me and an attitude change and a more intelligent way of approaching all LBS. From now on all charges WILL be discussed up front to avoid unpleasant surprises after the job is done.

Thanks hairy. That was my feeling. The people that I stayed with had already purchased 3 bicycles from that particular shop (at my recommendation). After my slightly bitter twinge, I resolved not to go there and when I told my host about it he also expressed the resolve not to go there any more. Indeed, if I was really vindictive I would have named the shop and given the power of the hub, I'm very sure that he would have lost business in future. However as it was only R20 I'm going to consider it school fees and move on. Still, R20 to blow up a tyre? Maybe the service stations should also start charging.

@mikeMT: No problem. I'll send you a cheque by email

@Iron Thats how dumb I am. I had one of those things in my pocket on my way to a garage. The LBS happened to be nearer so in my naivety I went there there instead. Afterwards I was thinking. What if I had refused to pay and instructed them to rather deflate the tyre so that I can go elsewhere. Would that mean I would be charged another R20 for his labour in deflating the tyre??

George has more LBS's than you think. At least 7 or 8. I was surprised at the amount of shops I saw when I started looking

This last week I was in George preparing for the Knysna MTB. On Thursday I decided to refresh the slime in my tyres. I deflated the tyres and filled up with slime. Because its a mission to pop the tyres with a hand pump I thought I'd go to the local LBS around the corner and ask them to pop the tyres for me. I walked into the shop and inquired from the young assistant. "No problem" he says and off we went into the workshop. He unscrewed the valve, popped the tyres, screwed the valve back on and job done. The time taken from start to finish was 20 minutes. Why so long? He couldn't start up the compressor while the owner of the shop was on the phone. As I was walking out I inquired out of courtesy if there was a charge, expecting there to be none. To my surprise his reply was "Aah yes, there's a R20 labour charge". I was really surprised because in Cape Town the local LBS's are happy to do the pop at no charge. I had to repeat my inquiry twice because I thought he was joking at first. I paid up and walked out the shop with a strong feeling of been ripped off and resolved never to go back to that particular LBS again. Granted he did do labour for me and he used electricty in starting up the compressor but R20? I have no doubt he thumb sucked that number. It could just as easily been R10 or R50. Its the principle of the thing that irks me, not the number. What I should have done in hindsight was to have enquired up front if there was going to be a charge. I've certainly learned from this. Why am I putting this post up? I thought was being ripped off but maybe I'm wrong and just spoiled by the good service from the Cape Town franchises. Perhaps times are hard in George and any revenue coming in is a delay from the wolves baying at the door. Why am I not naming the LBS in question? In hindsight I should have gone to the owner of the shop and confirmed that there was a charge. I didn't and therefore I have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Moral of the story: Whenever you go into an LBS in George enquire as to the charge up front, not after the jobeis complete

I rode a Boulder for years on Tokai jeep track. It has a little sticker on the crossbar stating that the bike is for recreational purposes only and shouldn't be used for off road activities That said, I pushed it well beyond its capabilities on jeep track and it handled the obstacles with aplomb. Just recently I started riding singletrack and thats when I realised how limited it and sluggish it was. I bought another brand at 3 times the price and am happily riding singletrack with confidence that the Boulder wasn't able to handle. The point here is that you have to decide what kind of riding your daughter is going to do before you decide what bike to buy her. Careful thought will save you a lot of money. Good luck

Amazing! I went and spoke to the attendant and somebody HAD handed the stuff in and he kept it for me. I was flabbergasted and grateful for the honesty of everybody involved. Is there any chance that the person that handed the light in can contact me so that I can thank him personally? Thanks again. I love Cape Town

had a fantastic ride on Saturday morning (2/5) but while washing my bike at the wash bay, I left my my powerpack on the ground and forgot about it. Duhh!! Has anybody possibly picked it up? Would appreciate if I can get it back.

Or, if its in the morning, he had a breakdown or something and his only option to get where he had to be was by bicycle without lights. Granted, it is a silly thing to do but maybe there weren't any other options. Life is full of hard choices and maybe the choice one takes in a given situation is possibly not the best one

In mitigation. The lad is only a moron if he does that kind of thing on a regular basis. It could perhaps be that he planned to be off the road by sunset but was delayed for some reason and now he faces a once off ride at in order to get home. He was possibly as scared as you were judgemental??

Hi Guys Ive been riding Tokai (jeeptrack) for the last three years and have just upgraded my bike and have started doing single track (very much beginner). Its absolutely great and my enjoyment is enhanced by the quality of the single track in Tokai. I feel like a bit of a parasite enjoying somebody elses hard work so I'd just like to say a BIG THANKs of appreciation for the somewhat thankless work that so few are putting in so that so many can take out.

Did the ride with my wife. She was slow so we only got to the top of OKW at 11h50. The guys there had lots of water and they were a godsend. Thanks PPA for making that plan. I'm not blaming anyone. We only finished at 12h20 so had to expect that the support had gone home, so it was nice to see PPA HAD made a plan for us "tail end charlies" Those guys at the top of OKW didn't have to stay up there for as long as they did. I for one appreciated that extra mile that they walked