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I only get 43km with the route suggested by the website. Lets hope people don't whinge over 4km.

thanks. i seemed to have not receive any emails with new route details and none was available yesterday morning at the Expo

This is only speculative, but I foresee the finish to be N2 to Strand Turn-off. Straight into High Level Road Turn right Glengariff Road Turn Left onto Main Road Turn right at Victoria Road / Main Road Roundabout Turn Right at Beach Road Roundabout. Mad sprint to the finish. Does anyone have any official announcement on the details for the last 10km?

It is only a seize-fire, not a reconciliation. Expect some fireworks in the next 12 months, but this is totally off topic, so apologies to those following this fred.

Its a very small community and many opt to go away for the day/weekend. The rest are on Suikerbossie giving us a big tjeer.

my point is valid, when another disaster hits us from left-field and it was not considered we will have another 700 posts about risk management, and I will only be responsible for like half of them.

fair comment. I am also in favor of a more transparent approach in future. Perhaps publish the possible alternatives and broadly what could trigger implementation of an alternative? or does that open a whole new truck load of worms?

Lets just hope that no unforeseen disaster pops up rendering the alternative, alternative route unride-able.

Listen to DB's radio interview. Imagine they made the call on Monday, and the wind changed that evening and the route was ride-able. There is not much change in your original planning for the day, apart from finishing in about half the time, so the missus may have to come pick you up earlier. I will probably take a ride home afterwards rather than try and find parking in Green Point. It will add another 25 odd kms to my ride.

... until there is another unforeseen disaster like a Tsunami taking beach road 3 days before the event. Then every single wize-ass will ask why a backup finish venue was not in place. If you consider all the variables and the likelihood of low risk items escalating into high risk, and plan on worst case scenario on each risk aspect, you will need more than just full double redundancy. Imagine they had to plan for a possible gale-force wind, or a heat wave, or a building falling down in Clifton, or a storm causing a road collapse in 3 anchor bay, or flash floods... the list can go on, but I am sure you get what I am saying.

why would they do that? It is a vital part of PPA's funding.

The bulk of the cost is the start venue, finish venue and road closure fees. It is substantially more than R1,75 mil. It would probably make up the bulk of the +-R5 million cost of putting up the event. Double this and the charities get half of what they are getting this year.

As I suspected a lot happened from Monday morning early until Wednesday evening.

I also don't have an issue to pay for a fully redundant route, but for many out there R800 is a lot of moola.

people seriously underestimate the mammoth task of putting up an event catering for 35 000 participants. If it was easy, there would be a 35 000 strong funride in every major city in the world. The more I think about the variables, logistics, planning, permissions, systems, safety, etc involved in this, the more appreciative I am for having done 5 Argusses without this type of curve ball. Ok, the windy Argus prolly came close, but with this current situation it just puts my moaning that year into perspective. 14 homes were destroyed this week and many more were under serious threat.

for me its common sense that if you have complete redundancy in two entirely separate routes and start and finish venues there would be significant cost involved. Will we then pay R800 next year just so that they can have a "Boland Argus" as backup? Nevermind the other logistics of 35 000 odd people on the day. Perhaps the answer is half the field and double the entry, making contingency planning a bit easier and the need for a fully redundant route less of an issue, but I am over simplifying, so let this thought simmer for a while.

I just wonder what makes you assume that they sat and did diddly squat until Wednesday.

I am sure the role players were already in discussion on Monday morning at 7am and decided to make a call at the latest possible moment, given that a re-route would not be possible as so concisely explained by the Captain.

do you think they sat on their hands for 3 days? Don't you think there were emails, telephone conferences, etc between disaster management, the mayors office, the premier's office, the Trust, PPA and rotary or do you think they had pina coladas for 3 days and only had a sit-down on wednesday to take the easy way out?

ok so they must get a completely separate start and finish venue, and separate route, pay for the necessary approvals, closures etc. for both scenarios to get the permissions in place because a natural disaster of Epic proportions happened once in 38 years. Next year we will have the wind or extreme heat again, so factor that in as well with this new route, perhaps source an indoor venue for this... IT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE...

ok next question... how do you get the safety officer to sign off on a new route in 3 days, even if you get Sanral to play ball with such short notice?

because the minute a road starts with an "N" you need to deal with Sanral. Do that in 3 days and have approval for the safety officer of the event by Wednesday evening...

yes they do, but they don't finish the Tour in Nice because they have road works on the Champs, nor do they move the Monaco GP on a Wednesday evening of the race weekend to Belgium.