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  1. Ok guys and gals, here is the full story. He was sentenced on the 8th May as follows by magistrate Kahn in the Krugersdorp Magistrates Court: Charge 1 Assault with the intent to do GBH: 2 years house arrest with correctional supervision,Community service of 20 hours per month for 1 year Charge 2 Assault with the intent to do GBH: 18 months in prison suspended Charge 3 Common assault: cautioned *GBH= Grievous bodily harm Effectively, Leeuw will spend his time the next 2 years in between his home and facilities which the DOCS determine where he shall serve the community service. This includes facilities where abused women and children are housed and it will be determined in correlation between DOCS and his social worker. He is self employed: construction work/civil engineering and therefore he will need special permission to leave his home which serves as his office. His wife is divorcing him, so he is tied up in that as well. The same attorney, Mr. Moody that represented him in the criminal case, represents him in the divorce matter. The magistrate made it very clear that this collective type of assault should , as a first offender, be seen by the community as very serious, hence his verdict returning him to the community for execution of sentence and justice to be seen to be done. The magistrate said that, if he sends him to prison, he will become a "sacrificial lamb". He will in all likelihood not be seen on a bike very soon, let alone assault a woman or anybody for that matter. His defence was basically grounded on self defence, stating that the woman was the aggressor. The magistrate found that he hit the woman "multiple times with the fist in the face." No evidence was lead in aggravation regarding a suspected and apparent tendency to act violent, but at 50-someting, het sits with a criminal record relating to assault. Steven Leeuw has reached the end of the road where people tolerate his violence. I pity him as a fellow cyclist and human being. I hope he sorts out his aggression and wish him well for the future. Case closed.
  2. Actually a sensible answer! I saw the whole incident happening. Regardless of what the motorist did or did not do, this is plain assault that took place. All the elements of a criminal act were there, and irrespective what grade of provocation he may plead, this was an intentional act. As the matter is now sub judice, this is all that I am disclosing at the moment, but this incident will not go away by itself.
  3. If he is, Admin must assist to get him. This has become a criminal prosecution matter.
  4. Yes please, I'm willing to testify as an eyewitness of the incident.
  5. As I said yesterday, I saw what happened from the beginning. This guy was in the wrong and seriously so. Whatever the lady did wrong (giving her all the benefit of the doubt) that lead to the incident, nobody should be allowed to punch a woman in the face with fists, four times.I know that eventually and to literally get him off the lady, a cyclist picked up the moron's bike and donnered him into submission and temporary sanity. This was when he got onto the bike and rode off. This is also why the perpetrator should be found and be made an example of, because he does not represent my sport and my gender. I sincerely hope that the van Heerdens are able to get him charged and convicted.
  6. http://www.netwerk24.com/Nuus/Algemeen/fietsryer-klap-vrou-gooi-warm-koffie-op-haar-man-20160926
  7. You obviously have first hand experience, probably as a seasoned journo...?
  8. ...it's not 'later this week' ...yet...at least this side of the universe...
  9. Check netwerk24.co.za later this week for the facts of the incident.
  10. I was a witness of this incident. I would also like to know who this man is...
  11. In an effort to get my lean, mean winter hibernated body squeaky clean- I need directions from the Hubbers where to turn to for a professional leg wax in the Pretoria area...please!
  12. Sean:Pity cos I'm trying to write a lot of constructive stuff about these guys and now is not a good time to turn down positive media exposure opportunities.The next day the story is no longer news... Opportunity lost. Pity. I find it interesting to note your comment on "timing". You do not say for which publication the exposure was considered, but I assume its for Bicycling. If so, I further assume your magazine has longer "time limits" on stories being mainly a monthly publication. Or are you referring to the deadline for publication of the next issue? How do you guys time your coverage of long "real-time" events like the TDF and Giro?
  13. A-HA! Don't they have media liason officer(s) or have they been fired in advance? Surely you should be liasing through their agents/liason officers...? Barloworld in my opinion created more damage by jumping the gun and creating a lot of media flack through their hasty public announcement. The legalities of the contractual relationship as it currently stands is also to be addressed- a valid contract is still in force and I assume the four remainding riders are complying with their end of the bargain. Or do they have the same "agent" as Bakkies Botha...?"Haastige hond verbrand sy mond?"
  14. fourbar

    Ryan Cox

    My deepest sympathy to the Cox family during this time. Draw near to God and He will give you strength and peace. Ryan will be fondly remembered.
  15. THANKS Amoryns, at least we can have a chukle without feeling guilty...
  16. Do you think the Dutch TV will now also join German TV and stop broadcasting the tour?
  17. Rasmusen refused to sign it. Christie: You're 100% correct regarding tests etc. but this forum has had this discussion going for ages and the same conclusion is drawn every time: they do it and it's for the labs to catch them out/ the organisers of races look the other way/managers try to bend the rules etc. etc. If I were a sponsor, I will immediately withdraw under these circumstances. The issue of Rasmussen's refusal to sign also confirms my point on honesty and the slapgatgeit of team management. "You don't sign-you don't ride- on behalf of my sponsors, the public and millions of cyclists out there!" Fact is, it raises the suspicion of how many administrators are in on the deal. We all know how it works in the corporate world out there- you scratch my back and I'll do the same one day...!
  18. [quote name=Christie Rasmusen got withdrawn and fired from his team because of suspicion' date=' there is no proof that he doped. [/quote] Even if there is no proof, the suspicion confirms his intent: to lie. Rasmussen lied to his team, management and himself. This goes to the core of the relationship: dishonesty. I surely don't want somebody to work for me who is a hardcore liar!!! fourbar2007-07-26 03:01:08
  19. Vino protested. Is it a case of him protesting one time too many or too hard???
  20. Thanx to everyone who has replied in the meantime! Looks like we're going to discover some interesting stories on this one and that the old rule will eventually prevail... consumer-BEWARE! Please share or re-direct us to previous discussions in this regard. It also becomes clear that one should opt for a broker rather than faceless call centre quotes, insist on clear, understandable definitions of what's in and what's out, insist to be told and shown all conditions of insurance and to remember that the Ombudsman is also there... Which makes me think- does'nt the ombudsman originate from the industry and will he/she be impartial/fair in assessments...?
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