points out the rules - "keyboard warrior"... er, okay. "photo on facebook doesn't look like it was taken in the dark" - ever heard of twilight? it's not personal Leo, like I said there's a pic with five marshals at twilight. (it's light, but the sun has not risen) if you're unsure about sunrise time, there's many websites that'll tell you when sunrise is - www.time.is, www.yr.no, www.timeanddate.com etc. the rules are clear, Sunrise to Sunset (i even bothered to put a screenshot and a link on a previous post) - not "Twilight to Twilight". I've p'd off a few friends by pointing that out to them too (with varying success) and I don't go ride before sunrise. there is an easy to see when riders are on the trail before sunrise. any how, you would think that if a website says something THREE times, it's pretty damn important: Instead of ruminating on the meaning of sunrise to sunset - let's stick to the rules and enjoy the trails, no matter who you are.