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snap snap snap....it is a bit of a no man's land bracket...cheap and cheerfull or shoot the lights out.

Is there any chance she can squeeze the budget to say 10500....that opens up a whole new level or trainer.

those arent roadies....they are funriders.. Don't give yourself a high five yet

Sure....choose your poison so to speak.

I think they were referencing steel frames more so than alu....

Being sought after / desirable / popular is unfortunately not one of steels properties....so you won't get much more than a streetwise two for said frame. Sad...I know

Also that SC test is the biggest load of kuk under the sun....testing a frame's extreme failure point in one direction and two points on the frame doesn't mean jack...they even admit that riders won't ever encounter these forces on the trail....they mentioned something about it being 800lb realistically A better test is to see what forces gets applied when the frame is stresses while riding and then emulating these over and over and over with a robot. Then see which material fails first under which forces and directions and how many cycles did the robot take to induce the failure and then probably the most important how does it fail. We don't ride trails in 2D like their test

I have broken a couple and seen a couple of frames break(alu and carbon..both brand names, but that is not the point) So my alu frame failed on the rear chainstay...about a 3rd of the way from the BB(not on a weld). It didn't fail catastrophically ie snap in two but rather cracked and horizontal forces no doubt caused it and worsened it. Luckily I still managed to finish a stage race with it and only noticed it afterwards. Friend of mine's carbon frame also failed in the same place...but this time it sheered right through. Now I know you can't compare the two failures directly saying that carbon will also snap and alu will rather sheer / tear and crack...its just shows how these materials handle stresses in directions they werent designed to....They key is THEY DON'T. You might be able to shape fancy rockers and frames using molds and hydroforming but they don't handle stresses outside these complex designs....some food for thought.

Best post here so far.... Great inventions those mushroom plugs

hahahaha.... Good one, but in all seriousness, classic case of your strength is also your weakness and vica versa

kekekekkee hit some nerves I see. Look there aint no perfect material, buuuut if I were to be on a bike where there is a failure. I can only hope it will be on the steel one.

"breaks" is relative to the nature and direction of the stress...

ja ja ja...klaar die prefekte gevra vir a merge

mmmmm I think the point is, when carbon does fail, it does so catastrophically...snap, crackle pop....in an instant whereas steel / alu(less so I suspect) would rather crack / elongate first before totally failing giving you valuable time to replace or fix. Just a thought

mod merge please https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/141601-tupperware-bikes-exposed/#entry2377029

Created a thread of simliar article

tongue in cheek heading...but interesting read http://www.nytimes.c...arder.html?_r=0

snotplug..... Get a kit at your LBS...most of them have...also carry with you when riding

SYWM....that is race fuel oom PRRAAAAAAAP.

Monster and pie....works everytime. Maybe I must trademark it.

Willem well spotted...neither did I. No soft tails if I remember correctly

yip....I agree, didn't want to say it but yes....the dragon's trails are very very cool

http://www.dragonpeaks.com/web/activities

REALLY....REALLY OOM...you want skillz to see this....he will be banned again

Pick me coach....pick me!!!!!!!!!!