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Can't believe this thread hasn't appeared yet.. Here is 2014 Epic Elite : Specs at: http://www.specialized.com/es/en/bikes/mountain/epic/14epicepicfsrelitecarbon

Apologies in advance if someone has asked this at some point, I did search the forums. I have a 2016 Specialized Camber and a 2016 Stumpjumper. The Camber has a "Brain" shock, the Stumpy has a non-brain shock. I prefer my Stumpy's rear shock, actually I prefer my Stumpy's whole shock setup to the Camber (it's fun). I'd like to be able to experiment with different shocks, but everything on the local second-hand market seems to have a different mount to what's on my Camber. I don't know what this mount is called, but it seems to be *the* standard rear shock mounting system. A website called bikeyoke sells an adapter which allows the use of standard shocks on a 2016 Camber, but these adapters, before shipping and customs duties, are about R 1700 (probably going to be about R 3000 all up as an estimate). Does anyone have any suggestions on an adapter available locally that is this price or less? Am I wasting my time wanting to try out different shock options? Maybe I'm expecting too much of my Camber.

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So.... I’m sure this isn't the first time this has come up But I've reached a point of desperation here... I simply cannot decide. I need feedback on long(er) term experience. I’ve decided to get myself a 29'er after a couple years on my awesome Trek EX9. I'm going the Spez route, it’s just a matter of either Camber or Epic Comp Carbon. Both bikes get rave reviews, besides one or two minor things, eg:- brakes on the Camber. First time I rode an Epic ( Expert) was at the lower part of the DaggaPad route at Van Gaalens, out on a out test ride with my mate(Shaun). He had the bike most of the 25km route we rode, I was only on it for about 3km, but didn’t like it one bit. I was on my EX9 and couldn’t wait to get back on it and off the Epic. He, however loved it. A week later he bought an Epic Elite, same bike just not carbon rims. I Took a Camber out a week later and really, really enjoyed it. I rode the concrete road, DaggaPad etc at Van Gaalens and rode the route much better than I did on my EX9 the week before. My mind was pretty much made till Shaun convinced to at least try the Epic once more again… I did… and ARGH…. Really liked it too! Did the River and Greek Church at Van Gaalens, felt one with the bike as I did the the Camber, 2 weeks prior. As the line in the verse from Live’s Lightening Crashes goes….. “The confusion set in…….” WT ef Now?? I took the Camber out again today.. once again , amazing…. granted no Brain (which by the way is just mind blowingly good) like the Epic. So what do I do? Which do I decide on? which should come first? Chicken or Egg?