zaShadow Posted June 21, 2011 Author Posted June 21, 2011 Good point. I know a chain link as a pair of links. I'll check the wording again. Thanks. Just checked Shimano's site again (http://bike.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/SI/SI_5XF0A/SI_5XF0A_001/SI-5XF0A-001-00-ENG_v1_m56577569830702524.PDF).This is how they describe it: "Add 2 links (with the chain on both the largest sprocket and the largest chainring" Zinn also describes a link as a '2 part thing', i.e. he says one chain link.
Minion Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 From the picture in the Shimano doc, they mean that two links consist of one inner link and one outer link i.e. 25.4mm pin to pin:
Minion Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) A link is a two-part affair that measures 25.4mm in length.I'll have to disagree with you on this one, Johan. ANSI says that the two-part affair consists of a roller link and a pin link, each 12.7mm long. Source: Machinery's Handbook 26th Ed, Industrial Press, 2000 Edited June 21, 2011 by Edman
Minion Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 Zinn also describes a link as a '2 part thing', i.e. he says one chain link.Looking at the context, Zinn means a link is the two part thing consisting of one roller link and one pin link i.e. the same thing that Shimano calls two links. Both are saying that you should add a one inch section of chain (you couldn't add 1/2 inch only without using a special offset link).
Big H* Posted June 21, 2011 Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) While you are working with a chain that is under tension make yoursel a thingie to hold the chain together. Use an old spoke bent like the pic below, chose and cut your own length to work.I used an old paper clip just as an example Edited June 21, 2011 by eccentric1
Tankman Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 A chain is held together by its own pins while under tension, not sure what you mean?
Minion Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 A chain is held together by its own pins while under tension, not sure what you mean?It's to hold the two lose ends together while you join them with a link pin or removeable link.
Big H* Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) A chain is held together by its own pins while under tension, not sure what you mean? Ask for the 16 year old appy at the chemist to give you this medicine, you do not need a script and you pay for it with the munny when you pass GO!!!! You will also receive a free copy of "how to measure a new chain when you have an old chain" Edited June 22, 2011 by eccentric1
Tankman Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) It's to hold the two lose ends together while you join them with a link pin or removeable link. Thanks Edman, I use my hands for doing that. eccentric has clearly been trying to build up his mechanical skills form the bicycling readers tip section And if you had any common sense, you would not work with the chain "under tension". Just take it off the front blade, or remove the rear wheel! Edited June 22, 2011 by Tankman
Christopher Brunsdon Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 And you guys realise that for every link you remove from your chain, your shortening its lifespan by 15km! So double up those links and get more mileage. /sarcasm off
Big H* Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Thanks Edman, I use my hands for doing that. eccentric has clearly been trying to build up his mechanical skills form the bicycling readers tip section And if you had any common sense, you would not work with the chain "under tension". Just take it off the front blade, or remove the rear wheel! Why is it so difficult for you to understand tankman? Ask the 16 year old appy you know, or else read below. The derraileur gives tension to the broken chain. The crankset and chain blades runs on ballbearings. Not a very good combination when you are trying to bring the two ends of a chain that has been broke/cut to fit a new link pin or trying to ensure it is the correct length. Please give us more behind the logic of removing a wheel or chainblades? Maybe the picture below will make sense to you but I doubt it. This "design" is even better than mine, quess why? Edited June 23, 2011 by eccentric1
Tankman Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Difficult to understand? Rather go and play in the chit chat forum before you embarrass yourself further. Only dumbasses dont know how to install a chain while the rear wheel is removed. If that is way over your head, leave the rear wheel in, take the chain through the front derailleur and let it rest between the bb and small chainring. No need for tension or paper clips or bent spokes or stupid tips form bicycling. Did you take your dosage of common sense this morning?
Topwine Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Awfully big, guys!No, he's just a "Tank" of a man to try and ridicule another person's attempt of giving some tips.
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