29er under 5000ZAR

[TopFuel]

My Vida 5 frame weighed 2.2kg. I have since bought an Orbea Alma 29er frame which weighed 2.1kg (this bike sells for R25k new) I also own a Niner EMD whose frame weighs 1.9kg. I also own a Scott Scale Expert 29er and it's frame weighs 2.3kg. I have also ridden all these bikes and the Vida is not lacking in anyway. Don't tell me my advise / opinion is ridiculous. If you have unlimited funds good for you. My advise to someone wanting to spend max R5k on a 29er is sound unlike your don't buy secondhand get a S-works theory

 

Orbea Alma frame weight: 1200g

Niner EMD frame weight: 1600g

Scott Scale Expert frame weight: 1150g

 

I think Tankman makes a valid point. Buying a more expensive frame and upgrading parts is much more comparable. Buying a cheap, heavy bike and upgrading components is still going to limit you due to the heavy frame.

 

Buying a more expensive, lighter frame when you can afford it is the much better way to go IMHO.

[JWF]

Orbea Alma frame weight: 1200g

Niner EMD frame weight: 1600g

Scott Scale Expert frame weight: 1150g

 

I think Tankman makes a valid point. Buying a more expensive frame and upgrading parts is much more comparable. Buying a cheap, heavy bike and upgrading components is still going to limit you due to the heavy frame.

 

Buying a more expensive, lighter frame when you can afford it is the much better way to go IMHO.

 

don't believe everything you read, I actually own the frames I have mentioned here and these are actual weights on the same scale. the scott spark includes the rear shock

[TopFuel]

don't believe everything you read, I actually own the frames I have mentioned here and these are actual weights on the same scale. the scott spark includes the rear shock

 

What exactly is in/on the frame when you weight them? Cause 2.3 kg for a high-end frame that quotes 1100g would cause a big uproar. So I'll question your weights.

[Cuppa Bru]

Axis are good value for money. They manage to keep the price down but still put decentish parts.

 

Other capable bands that will come in at your budget is Titan, Silverback, Raleigh and Diamondback

 

Whatever make you buy, be sure to buy from a reputable LBS whose mechanics can dial in the bicycle right as well as pick up on any faults before you collect your new bike.

[Smiles]

What exactly is in/on the frame when you weight them? Cause 2.3 kg for a high-end frame that quotes 1100g would cause a big uproar. So I'll question your weights.

You are comparing two different frames. The scale is a hardtail, and the spark is a full suss, hence the difference in weights

[TopFuel]

You are comparing two different frames. The scale is a hardtail, and the spark is a full suss, hence the difference in weights

 

He specifically states he has a Scott Scale Expert, which is a hardtail. I dont know where the Scott Spark came into this. Hence I quoted the weight of the hardtail. What I'm saying is that he's saying all of those frames are >2kg, where they're quoted to be more like 1.1kg.

[Tankman]

 

 

Whatever make you buy, be sure to buy from a reputable LBS whose mechanics can dial in the bicycle right as well as pick up on any faults before you collect your new bike.

 

Thats the pitfall with the very low end spectrum stuff, it needs to be dialed in much more fequently!

 

The R75 no name jockey on the Game bike is probably going to snap in half before you can say XT

[JWF]

He specifically states he has a Scott Scale Expert, which is a hardtail. I dont know where the Scott Spark came into this. Hence I quoted the weight of the hardtail. What I'm saying is that he's saying all of those frames are >2kg, where they're quoted to be more like 1.1kg.

 

My mistake, if you read my first reply I did say Spark and in reply to you did mention with rear shock. The weight of the Scott is irrelevant as it is not alloy like the Vida, Orbea Alma and Niner EMD9. My point is that the Orbea and Niner weigh marginally less than the Vida, I don't care what they state in the pamphlets, these are actual weights of large frames with nothing more than headset cups. The original poster is asking what can he get for R5k. I suggested a Vida5. I was then told I was being ridculous to suggest this as a starting point to be followed up by upgrades to wheels, crankset etc. The reasoning was that the Vida weighed 3kg and more expensive frames weighed less and thus cost a lot more. They don't. In my experience the wheels offered the most weight saving followed by cranksets. Also upgrading these led to lower rolling resistance (lower weight better bearings). I posted to give some ideas on what could be gotten for R5k, telling the dude not to buy a R5k bike but to spend R15 to R20k is a bit mute if he is only willing to spend R5K.