slowpoke Posted September 14, 2006 Share gummy, you put it very well... the stuff that changes the way your body functions is the kind of stuff htat will most likely cause long term problems and as such it should only be used if medically needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted September 15, 2006 Share Phedra-Cut Advanced - I use to use this when I started out jogging, I swear I could jog for longer and had more energy, now I know why.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWdeJager Posted September 15, 2006 Share 17-Testo X' date=' Tribulus-7 and Mega Anabolic Stack all contain tribulus terrestris which is not banned but can elevate testosterone levels above normal limits in some individuals. [/quote'] So the good doctor is saying that Landis might have used some of this stuff???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widget Posted September 15, 2006 Share I think the defining word is "performance enhancing" but then what about those little nose clips some riders are wearing these days that supposedly allow you to breathe easier - is that not "performance enhancing??" - certainly not banned.!! ................and what about the rider in teams who have access to big budget and can afford, all the testing in wind tunnels, or the specialist doctors to moniter their blood etc and the specialist phisiotherapists, Psychiatrists etc - is that not performance enhancing??? Certainly not banned.!! All a bit grey if you ask me.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWdeJager Posted September 15, 2006 Share Ja, hulle kan sommer alle roadbikes ligter as 10kg ook verban. Ek is seker daai ouens op die 30k bikes het 'n performance advantage bo my 1k Trekkerkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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