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Mampara Wat do you mean that nothing is better than anything else. Than why dont we see pros using sora or even 105. They use DURA ACE because its better.

 

 

Guess what, they get given the stuff and don't have to lay out a single cent to maintain it. Define better. Does it do the job? Will you/I, as an amateur, really improve just because we have a "better" groupset. If what you've got does the job it is intended to do, then it is good enough.

 

 
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dude take it from me... Sram - very nice to have' date=' the shifting is amazing , but the big disadvantage is that it needs a lot of attention all the time, so regular service is required

on the other hand , Shimano DA is more rough but still very good  (lots of pros also use them) and Shimano is like a AK47 it will always work with or without the monthly service!!

 

Sram is still new to road cycling where as Shimano and Campy is still going strong.

 

If you like "style" and want ot be brandname "bef&k" then go with the expensive Campy or Sram.

 

Shimano is still the best value for money I would say and the new DA looks really good

 

Up 2 u mate..
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Sorry all for opening up a whole can of worms again.

I can't disagree more with the above.

I was riding with Sram Force for almost a year and a half, a few months back I switched to Sram Red.

Not once have I ever had to service my Sram components, define how they are to be serviced as well, please.

Some parts and little internals can be replaced.

Campy shifters on the other hand are fully servicable and can out live the life of a frame LOLLOL seriously though, the Campy stuff can go on for a very long time.

Sram have been around the cycle market for many years and they only launched the road gruppo's once they felt comfortable with the performance of the components.

 

Shimano Dura Ace is anything but rough, I will say it is the slickest of the lot.

Yes, Shimano is excellent value for money, I agree there.

In the end of the day I will pin the descision on the following.

 

1.Decide which component company appeals to you the most (looks, bragging rights, trust etc.....)

2.Get the feel of the differences in the shifting and asses again.

3.Look at the budget and then decide what appeals to you the most in terms of looks and feel combined (you are going to have to live with it)

If you can afford the one you prefer or lean towards to the most, then make the final descision.

I personally feel that all three the above are great Thumbs%20Up
Summit Cycles2008-10-03 11:43:21
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instead of force or dura ace also check out chorus it is around the same price range and weight and works really well....and as summit cycles said can out last your frame easily

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I rate you could compare Sram Force to DA , but not Red to DA! No ways!

 

 

 

But i have no clue on which is better! Shimano or Sram?

 

 

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It all boils down to taste and money at the end of the day me thinks. Each groupset comes with its pro's and cons, and everyone seems to have a horror story about a mate's inlaw's sister's kid's best buddy who got into trouble when his chain snapped and is now looking for a complete new brand of grouppo because he was unable to ride for half an hour or had to settle with 2000'th place in a race.   

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dude take it from me... Sram - very nice to have' date=' the shifting is amazing , but the big disadvantage is that it needs a lot of attention all the time, so regular service is required

on the other hand , Shimano DA is more rough but still very good  (lots of pros also use them) and Shimano is like a AK47 it will always work with or without the monthly service!!

 

Sram is still new to road cycling where as Shimano and Campy is still going strong.

 

If you like "style" and want ot be brandname "bef&k" then go with the expensive Campy or Sram.

 

Shimano is still the best value for money I would say and the new DA looks really good

 

Up 2 u mate..
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Do you make this stuff up?

 

People ask questions here to get informed opinion. Unfortunately too often they get drivel like this in reply.

 

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Thats harsh niterider

 

Harsh but true. I get tired of having to wade through crap to read something useful. If one doesn't have something constructive to add, then rather not say anything.

 

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Some people are Groupset groupies, and swear by what they have.

Some things I picked up on (with my limited knowledge):

 

Campagnola, have not really changed the basic operation of the shift levers since STI's were invented... still a thumb shift (which seems backwards), which is too much like entry level Shimano Sora.

How is it possible to shift in the drops? What happens it you fall? Do the levers just break off cos they dont fold in?

 

Campag also has a cult following and its members are known to tattoo campag on themselves - so it must be good (one must remember, the VW beetle also has a cult following, and it is by no mean the best car...)

 

Shimano, hated by almost everyone. But arguably the most common. With the most victories, the operation just makes sense. one lever for up, another for down. Brakes are the best in the business. It's mass produced, and is much cheaper - and that is it's downfall, no exclusivity. "My fat neighbour even has Dura-ace"

The saying, "Tall trees catch the most wind" comes to mind...

 

SRAM, New kid on the Block, the name of a band, was a huge hit in the 90's then faded out... Apparently, Rival and Force where prototypes to RED. So if you gonna get it, get RED.

Huge success in MTB'ing, but the road stuff is yet to prove itself with regular people like you and me.

If you read any review of SRAM, they talk about the irritation of the derailleurs constantly needing adjustment, and unless you on a pro-team with a mechanic, this could be annoying...

Red is possibly the most exclusive currently, and I think even the most expensive, and you will be the envy of everyone, but when you keep asking your mate to borrow his star-screwdriver to adjust your front derailleur halfway through your weekend ride... 

Double tap, really makes sense- nice to see one manufacturer moving forward.

 

 

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