Mongoose Teocali Comp

[Hog_]

 

Then I would say go for the Teocali as you will have more rear and front shock travel than the Mtrax and a hardtail over obstacles.  

 

Other opinions??

 

If the goal is FR/AM type riding, then the Teocali for sure. BUT, for a beginner a hardtail may be better to learn on. If you can do the technical stuff on a hardtail properly first, you'll be much better off.

 

 

 

 

[whistler]

 

 

If the goal is FR/AM type riding, then the Teocali for sure. BUT, for a beginner a hardtail may be better to learn on. If you can do the technical stuff on a hardtail properly first, you'll be much better off.

 

 

 

 

Second that! Nothing improves skills like hardtails

 

[whistler]

whoops, got the qoute thing wrong

[habib]

And this guy has just sent me the following bike detials

 

Kona Kahuna Mountainbike, dual suspension(Manitou

lockout front shock), disc brakes, LX derailleur, 18 inch (medium), very good

condition. R 6500.00

 

[SRBVI]

Then I would say go for the Teocali as you will have more rear and front shock travel than the Mtrax and a hardtail over obstacles.  

 

Other opinions??

If the goal is FR/AM type riding' date=' then the Teocali for sure. BUT, for a beginner a hardtail may be better to learn on. If you can do the technical stuff on a hardtail properly first, you'll be much better off.



[/quote']

 

Good point Hog

[habib]

Okay so now I am Completely totally absolutally f$#@ing confused, how can one sport be so complicated I just want a bike,

 

so now that I have had my blow out, so a hardtail would be better to learn on is what every one is getting at and off course the components will be a lot better then the Mongoose I have found or the Kuna

 

Sound about right

 

What about resale values hardtail or soft tail

 

[SRBVI]

I have just been offered this:

Mongoose Otero is the Super Brown '08 model with Sram X-5 the price is R8200 and we can settle it less 5% for cash.Size medium New bike never been riden from a store

 

I think the Teocali is a 2007 model as it is the old frame design can find the specs to compare it against the Otero.

[Bos]

Mate youve seen nothing yet...

If you close your eyes and think of the kind of riding you want to do... Is it longdistance missions on country road ... or do you see yourself charging down a singletrack? hardtail for the first- FS for the latter.

 

The resale value of a 3rd hand bike might be less than a bike thats 2nd hand altough the Full sus  has the "cool" element If you want to sell it to some Kid.

 

 

[habib]

 

Mate youve seen nothing yet...

If you close your eyes and think of the kind of riding you want to do... Is it longdistance missions on country road ... or do you see yourself charging down a singletrack? hardtail for the first- FS for the latter.

 

The resale value of a 3rd hand bike might be less than a bike thats 2nd hand altough the Full sus  has the "cool" element If you want to sell it to some Kid.

 

 

 

THIS HAS PUT A LOT OF PERSPECTIVE TO MY CHOICE I do ride the road every so often and when I get to 20km i get bored and this weekend I went and rode with mates to the different trials and koppies etc... in melville and surounding areas and of the 40km we did i was alwasy in my element rushing down the embankments, launching over things and riding through the riversthat is a jol

 

As for the Teocali or the 08 Otero I did some research on the frame warantee I dont expect to break the frame but if I do a warantee can not be transfered and I think this is still a big sales pitch to me.

 

I think with all this thought of I may have made my choice

 

PS I am a lazy cyclist and Dont like the long haul

 

[habib]

 

 

 

As for the Teocali or the 08 Otero I did some research on the frame warantee I dont expect to break the frame but if I do a warantee can not be transfered and I think this is still a big sales pitch to me.

 

I think with all this thought of I may have made my choice

 

PS I am a lazy cyclist and Dont like the long haul

 

This is very bad english so I am going to try write it again in English and not Ohh i am excited getting a bik language.

 

 

The Teocali has no warantee but the Otero does so there for the Otero is the better option as a new bike.

 

[habib]

So I went on Wednesday after the voting to the Cycle Hub at the rietvlei zoo farm and they let me ride one of there bikes (soft Tail) on the route. and there were places before I didnt want to even attempt but was able to cruise rather freely with the soft tail,  but it almost feels like it could get boring So they have said I can ride again on Saterday with one of there hardtails to see which I prefer.

 

With this inmind I started my shopping again to find a Silverback Sierra a bit out of my price but none the less I think from the look of the components a gooood bike

 

Any other opinion on the Sierra good or bad please and I found for R 11k new how does that sound

 

[habib]

Ok guys to all of you who gave there opinion and ideas on what bike they like and what would suit me the best THANK YOU, it definatly you guys made it very easy to ask the question which to a guy who rides a lot seem stupid but for a noob things they dont understand so thanks for listening and answering with patience.

 

I did eventually make a decision today and I am now a proud owner of a Merida TFS 900D Hard tail

 

Thanks again guys

 

[downhilldemon]

personally i would have gone with a dual suspension. i cant agree with the people who said a hardtail will improve your skill more. (not in the begining at least)

 

when i changed from a hardtail to a soft tail my skill improved dramatically. (ok now that i'm up to a certain level - i take a hardtail out every now and then to find the best lines, but i would never have got to my current skill level/ confidence level on a hardtail)

 

just the way it worked for me - but then some people say i am strange

[bustthesickness]

 

Then I would say go for the Teocali as you will have more rear and front shock travel than the Mtrax and a hardtail over obstacles.  

 

Other opinions??

 

If the goal is FR/AM type riding' date=' then the Teocali for sure. BUT, for a beginner a hardtail may be better to learn on. If you can do the technical stuff on a hardtail properly first, you'll be much better off.

[/quote']

 

The Teocali is 'All Mountain'. NOT 'FR/Freeride. I think guys are constantly getting these two terms confused. I for one wouldnt like to take a burly 2 meter drop off on a Teocali. The entire bike is specc'd for as an AM bike, from the Pike/Fox forks to the MC rear shock.

 

Habib, it's a pity you didnt buy that Teocali. It would have been a really good starting point. The myth that it's better to start out on a hardtail to "learn on" is just that, a myth, and I for one wish that Mythbusters would do an episode on this. Bike skills are bike skills, comfort is all you'll be without now. A full-suss bike has got much more traction on hills, your center of gravity is lower as you tend to sit a LOT more.

 

The Teocali would have given you a good base to build from, as it's light enough to take on hills, strong enough to do moderate drops, burly rock gardens, sling it onto your back and portage it, technical singletracks, the lot.

 

It's always the problem with forums, you'd have been better off reading the reviews on both bikes in www.mtbr.com (and I know I'm being a hypocrite by saying this, but feel I have a valid opinion since I own the bike you asked about)

 

 

 

 

[habib]

 

Then I would say go for the Teocali as you will have more rear and front shock travel than the Mtrax and a hardtail over obstacles.  

 

Other opinions??

 

If the goal is FR/AM type riding' date=' then the Teocali for sure. BUT, for a beginner a hardtail may be better to learn on. If you can do the technical stuff on a hardtail properly first, you'll be much better off.

[/quote']

 

The Teocali is 'All Mountain'. NOT 'FR/Freeride. I think guys are constantly getting these two terms confused. I for one wouldnt like to take a burly 2 meter drop off on a Teocali. The entire bike is specc'd for as an AM bike, from the Pike/Fox forks to the MC rear shock.

 

Habib, it's a pity you didnt buy that Teocali. It would have been a really good starting point. The myth that it's better to start out on a hardtail to "learn on" is just that, a myth, and I for one wish that Mythbusters would do an episode on this. Bike skills are bike skills, comfort is all you'll be without now. A full-suss bike has got much more traction on hills, your center of gravity is lower as you tend to sit a LOT more.

 

The Teocali would have given you a good base to build from, as it's light enough to take on hills, strong enough to do moderate drops, burly rock gardens, sling it onto your back and portage it, technical singletracks, the lot.

 

It's always the problem with forums, you'd have been better off reading the reviews on both bikes in www.mtbr.com (and I know I'm being a hypocrite by saying this, but feel I have a valid opinion since I own the bike you asked about)

 

 

 

 

Good Morning bustthesickness

 

I absolutly and totally appreciate everyones opinions and you are very right in saying asking a question like this on a forum is also not the best thing to do as everyone has such vast & different opinions. I did also look into the revies section and well to be honest you get a similar results out of that, I say this due to the fact on the reviews section you still have the guys who really like the product and there are the other guys who really dont.

 

I did get to take the whole review thing one step further though, and did not base my entire decision on the forums the way I did it I was lucky enough to get the oppertunity to ride a soft tail and a hard tail on a course with single track technical some decent accents and really fun decents (not sure if you know of the tracks at Rietvlei Zoo Farm)

 

And this is where I finally made my decission the ride on the soft tail was absolulty amaizing it was so smooth and well very very easy to forget you traveling at high speed on a rocky decending terrain. and for me that was the big thing I relly enjoyed the way the hardtail threw me around i like the mission to have to fight the bike to stay on track just makes for a more exciting ride for ME. Other then that I have also now got really good components and shocks etc... so in 1 year from now if I am propper bored with the hard tail I can look at buying a decent soft tail frame and put my components on.

 

I hope you see my opinion on why I went the way I did. either way the ride for me was fun.

 

Habib

 

[bustthesickness]

 

Then I would say go for the Teocali as you will have more rear and front shock travel than the Mtrax and a hardtail over obstacles.  

 

Other opinions??

 

If the goal is FR/AM type riding' date=' then the Teocali for sure. BUT, for a beginner a hardtail may be better to learn on. If you can do the technical stuff on a hardtail properly first, you'll be much better off.

[/quote']

 

The Teocali is 'All Mountain'. NOT 'FR/Freeride. I think guys are constantly getting these two terms confused. I for one wouldnt like to take a burly 2 meter drop off on a Teocali. The entire bike is specc'd for as an AM bike, from the Pike/Fox forks to the MC rear shock.

 

Habib, it's a pity you didnt buy that Teocali. It would have been a really good starting point. The myth that it's better to start out on a hardtail to "learn on" is just that, a myth, and I for one wish that Mythbusters would do an episode on this. Bike skills are bike skills, comfort is all you'll be without now. A full-suss bike has got much more traction on hills, your center of gravity is lower as you tend to sit a LOT more.

 

The Teocali would have given you a good base to build from, as it's light enough to take on hills, strong enough to do moderate drops, burly rock gardens, sling it onto your back and portage it, technical singletracks, the lot.

 

It's always the problem with forums, you'd have been better off reading the reviews on both bikes in www.mtbr.com (and I know I'm being a hypocrite by saying this, but feel I have a valid opinion since I own the bike you asked about)

 

 

 

 

Good Morning bustthesickness

 

I absolutly and totally appreciate everyones opinions and you are very right in saying asking a question like this on a forum is also not the best thing to do as everyone has such vast & different opinions. I did also look into the revies section and well to be honest you get a similar results out of that, I say this due to the fact on the reviews section you still have the guys who really like the product and there are the other guys who really dont.

 

I did get to take the whole review thing one step further though, and did not base my entire decision on the forums the way I did it I was lucky enough to get the oppertunity to ride a soft tail and a hard tail on a course with single track technical some decent accents and really fun decents (not sure if you know of the tracks at Rietvlei Zoo Farm)

 

And this is where I finally made my decission the ride on the soft tail was absolulty amaizing it was so smooth and well very very easy to forget you traveling at high speed on a rocky decending terrain. and for me that was the big thing I relly enjoyed the way the hardtail threw me around i like the mission to have to fight the bike to stay on track just makes for a more exciting ride for ME. Other then that I have also now got really good components and shocks etc... so in 1 year from now if I am propper bored with the hard tail I can look at buying a decent soft tail frame and put my components on.

 

I hope you see my opinion on why I went the way I did. either way the ride for me was fun.

 

Habib

 

???

each to their own