porky Posted June 12, 2009 Posted June 12, 2009 Good heavens, when I read through the post I got the impression this was a R50,000.00 plus bill, not one of less than R7,000.00! Thats petty cash, really it is, I would imagine there seems to be something else involved here, I really cant see a company of DCM Chromes stature quibbeling over a R7,000.00 bill, unless they had a very good reason to do so, which, for whatever reason, remains undisclosed. In my humble opinion, going the legal route will just ensure payment is NOT forthcoming until a court order (which could go either way remember) and could take quite a while to obtain. Can you not arrange a face to face consultation with the relevant parties?Thrash it out over a coffee and biscuits, even if it requires a cheap air ticket to JHB and car hire for a day, I would say it will be worth it. As for the smoke screens about sponsorships etc, thats just childish, these decisions are made by impartial and hardened business execuctives without any axe to grind. They make decisions based on sound business principles, which are researched and proven, not childish and petty smoke screens about "peoples careers and benefits to the sport". Just my view, your mileage may differ.! porky2009-06-12 07:32:17
tiger cycles Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 Porky.I am trying to hold out on the whole legal route thingy.Man..... Its been 2 weeks today since i spoke to Jason and still no response OR hint of any payment to be made. Keeping this topic alive is my only hope of maybe seeing my moola. As for the childish remarks made about sponsorship withdrawels and riders losing their jobs.....Could not agree with you more..... That is uncalled for.
Tumbleweed Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 tiger, years ago when me and my mate - he's actually a hubber, he knows who he is - were owed money by someone, we decided to use the nuisance factor. we left voicemail after voicemail after voicemail after voicemail?until eventually we wore the the dude down. we got more cash than we initially agreed to provide our service for?
mtb0812 Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 Porky and Tiger.... It's very easy for you two (and others) to sit in your cushy little lives and poke comments about childish remarks etc... you have clearly not thought it through before posting comments.. Yes these decisions are made by impartial and hardened businessmen and if they have to do damage control to undo the cr@p that you all write here they WILL pull thier sponsorship... You will of course got your point across and mountain biking will have lost millions of rands worth of injection into the sport. Don't mess with other peoples livelyhood.... Tiger cycles, no matter how much you say that Brandon is a great chap etc etc... if you carry on with this public smear... you are putting Brandon (and other peoples) livelyhood at risk. I also don't condone DCM's conduct but I can guarantee you that there is always two sides to a story... mtb08122009-06-15 02:38:28
tiger cycles Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE.....IN THIS CASE ALL I AM HOPING FOR IS WHAT IS DUE TO ME..............REALLY MATE......I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME THEY PAID..... GEEZ MAN......THE ONLY THING I AM TRUELLY GUILTY OF IS GETTING ALL 6 RIDERS TO THE FINISH LINE. AND A SECOND PLACE ON THE FINAL DAY.....MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE LEFT MAXX'S BIKE BROKEN AND SEE HOW FAR HE GOT. AND TINKERS BIKE AS WELL. OH AND WHAT ABOUT JAQUES ON THE FIRST DAY.....HOW FAR WOULD THEY HAVE COME WITHOUT ME THERE. (I'M NOT BLOWING SMOKE UP MY OWN BLOW-HOLE HERE) BUT COME ON DCM...
tiger cycles Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 [I also don't condone DCM's conduct but I can guarantee you that there is always two sides to a story... WELL HOWCOME THEY DON'T AIR THERE SIDE OF THE STORY. UMMMMM...MAYBE BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THEY EMPLOYED SOMEONE TO DO A JOB , AND HAVE NOT PAID ...... YOUR COMPLETELY RIGHT....THIS TYPE OF PUBLIC SMEARING IS UNNECESSARY. AND CHILDISH. BUT IF ITS GONNA GET ME PAID.... THEN I'M GONNA DO IT.. WHAT WOULD YOU CALL DCM FOR NOT PAYING AN EMPLOYEE SEEING AS I AM CHILDISH
philip.maree Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 Dude, go the small claims route and be done with it. Continue this post when it the legal route is successful or unsuccessful. IMHO, this post is doing you no favors at this point.
Hog_ Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 Dude' date=' go the small claims route and be done with it. Continue this post when it the legal route is successful or unsuccessful. IMHO, this post is doing you no favors at this point. [/quote'] Sorry Tiger, but I have to agree with this. You are starting to look bad, even though you're the 'victim'. I'd be wary of doing business with you right now, to be honest. If my credit card bounces, are you going to call me out on the Hub as well? If they're not paying, then go to the small claims court. That's why there is a small claims court. At the end of the day, shouting your mouth off on here isn't really going to hurt DCM's bottom line because the amount of people on the hub that do business with DCM is probably less than 1%. Meaning they can ignore you and sit with your money in their account for years and the only person getting hurt is you.
The expat cyclist Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 Someone once owed me money. My cousin and I went over to his house. That person now does not owe me the money anymore!
porky Posted June 15, 2009 Posted June 15, 2009 Porky. I am trying to hold out on the whole legal route thingy.Man..... Its been 2 weeks today since i spoke to Jason and still no response OR hint of any payment to be made. Keeping this topic alive is my only hope of maybe seeing my moola. As for the childish remarks made about sponsorship withdrawels and riders losing their jobs.....Could not agree with you more..... That is uncalled for. Maybe I was unclear, my referance to the tirade by "zooncronje" was my motivation for my comment on a "childish outburst". I personally dont see you in a bad light at all, to me it appears to be a case of delaying tactics somewhere, going overseas, going to hospital, missing each other, doing this, get back to you later............................! If there is a dispute over payment, it needs to be addressed and confronted, from what I read Tiger has put his case forward on many occassion, BUT, there has been no response from DCM Chromes side as to their possible reason for witholding the funds. That is also unfair to Tiger, DCM should make their case known (not necessarily here) but to Tiger, and give him the opportunity to sort it out or come to an agreement. The silent treatment is also not acceptable. Take my advice and stay away from the courts if you ever wish to work for or do business with them again, if you go the legal route you burn all bridges, and just opens the door to all sorts of legal wrangeling which will end up costing you money, time, effort and patience. Court is the absolutely last resource you want to get involved in.
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