The Downhill Thread

[Guest Omega Man]

Bru i have no idea of the eye to eye or stroke or what - havent looked at it yet - but Duxbury had a look yesterday and suggested a 275lbs spring

It's a 3.5 inch stroke. And same Eye to Eye as a makulu if I'm not mistaken

[patches]

Bru i have no idea of the eye to eye or stroke or what - havent looked at it yet - but Duxbury had a look yesterday and suggested a 275lbs spring

 

hahaha! the stroke is more critical than the eye-to-eye (in the case of ordering springs)... but chances are if it's a 267 ETE, then it has a 3.5" stroke.

 

But don't worry, I got this from the interweb (Fanatik Bike)

 

" The Wilson utilizes a custom-valved Cane Creek Double Barrel 10.5"x3.5" rear shock"... so yeah, 267 ETE and 3.5" stroke... as I suspected.

 

Ti Springs doesn't have any of those on the shelf, but they do list it on pre-order, if you can wait until Jan for delivery. And at under R1700 it is still a bargain. So go for the 275 x 3.5" with 36.5mm I.D.

 

Also, here's a good site to do your spring rate calcs...

 

Just put in your weight.

Stroke will be 3.5"

Travel will be 8.5" (216mm on a Wilson)

and choose your "plushness" (I know you KZN boys like 70% sag )

The bottom results will be according to linkage and shock valving types.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Oh, and I have a collection of 3.5" springs (all steel though) that you're welcome to try out for feel before busting bucks on Ti. I have 200lb, 250lb, 300lb, and 350lb. (The Makulu's with CCDB, and Fox RC4's use the same size springs).

Edited November 25, 2013 by patches

[nigelhicks]

Duxbury says that the shocks was a 10.5 x 3.5 inch

[nigelhicks]

hahaha! the stroke is more critical than the eye-to-eye (in the case of ordering springs)... but chances are if it's a 267 ETE, then it has a 3.5" stroke.

 

But don't worry, I got this from the interweb (Fanatik Bike)

 

" The Wilson utilizes a custom-valved Cane Creek Double Barrel 10.5"x3.5" rear shock"... so yeah, 267 ETE and 3.5" stroke... as I suspected.

 

Ti Springs doesn't have any of those on the shelf, but they do list it on pre-order, if you can wait until Jan for delivery. And at under R1700 it is still a bargain. So go for the 275 x 3.5" with 36.5mm I.D.

 

Also, here's a good site to do your spring rate calcs...

 

Just put in your weight.

Stroke will be 3.5"

Travel will be 8.5" (216mm on a Wilson)

and choose your "plushness" (I know you KZN boys like 70% sag )

The bottom results will be according to linkage and shock valving types.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Oh, and I have a collection of 3.5" springs (all steel though) that you're welcome to try out for feel before busting bucks on Ti. I have 200lb, 250lb (I think Mr Fey still has it), 300lb, and 350lb. (The Makulu's with CCDB, and Fox RC4's use the same size springs).

 

Spring rate Calcs??? dude that is far too technical for me - I just get on and ride ...

Make the bike light - and then ride it

 

Oh and with regards to Sag ... ummm maybe the rest of KZN run epic sag ... but i tend to stick to 20% - I prefer a stiff responsive ride rather than a water bed

[nigelhicks]

ok so i did that thing about the spring rates and it said 212 for the CCDB

[patches]

ok so i did that thing about the spring rates and it said 212 for the CCDB

 

Yeah... thought it might come out less than 275lb. But that 212lb is a guideline. According ot the Calc I should use a 300lb to get 28% sag on my Makulu (Fox RC4), but I find a 325-350lb to feel a lot better.

 

What spring did the shock come with? (probably a 200lb)

[nigelhicks]

300

[nigelhicks]

and it feels soft already - very plush on initial stroke, but ramps up quickly - I am sitting in 17% sag at the moment

 

with 20% on the front end

[Guest Omega Man]

300

CCDB is the knee's of a bee.

[nigelhicks]

I think i'll do the base tune as per the CC website ... then give it a ride once i have all the parts ... then make a decision on the spring.

 

Not keen to fork out R1500 and it be too soft or something

[patches]

I think i'll do the base tune as per the CC website ... then give it a ride once i have all the parts ... then make a decision on the spring.

 

Not keen to fork out R1500 and it be too soft or something

 

yup!

 

and if you want I'll send down the 200lb and 250lb next weekend (with Mr Christmas Tree and Peach) ...if you want to try them. Just let me know

[nigelhicks]

yeah that would be awesome thanks

 

The CC website says i should run a 225 for my weight - but wow that sounds light!

[Guest Omega Man]

yeah that would be awesome thanks

 

The CC website says i should run a 225 for my weight - but wow that sounds light!

Ja but those sites always recommenced you run your stuff as soft as a marshmallow.

[nigelhicks]

Ja but those sites always recommenced you run your stuff as soft as a marshmallow.

 

Thats what im worried about - and also with our tracks being flatter than a pancake and having zero roots ... I'm tending towards the stiffer end of the spectrum to compensate for the pedal-fest zones

[patches]

Ja but those sites always recommenced you run your stuff as soft as a marshmallow.

Thats what im worried about - and also with our tracks being flatter than a pancake and having zero roots ... I'm tending towards the stiffer end of the spectrum to compensate for the pedal-fest zones

 

Yeah, I think UncleRico was running a 225/250 on his Makulu. My Mak came with a 200lb...

 

I was like "what is this... a spring for anorexics!"

[nigelhicks]

so maybe my 300 will suit my riding style - hard stiff ride