Bar end shifters

[mataz]

I think I know the answer to this one but is there any chance one could use Shimano bar end shifters with a Campag groupset? 

Campag shifters are so difficult to find and are damn expensive!

[mataz]

Anyone know for sure?

[javadude]

Yes, if you order one of these from the US for $35:

 

 

http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htm

 

 

 

 

[mataz]

Thanks velo!

[AndreZA]

if you remove the indexing it should work 100%.

[mataz]

Ok, sounds like a less expensive option...excuse my ignorance, and it might sound like a stupid question; but how would I go about doing that?

[javadude]

 

 

The Dura Ace Shifters have a dial on the right lever. Allows you to choose friction or index.

velo2009-08-27 05:53:25

[AndreZA]

Just open it up and play around.

 

 

 

http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=140

[Kiwi]

10 speed Shimano Bar End Shifters will work ok with Campag 10 speed components. The spacing difference between the two formats on the rear cassette is tiny.

[Jules]

10 speed Shimano Bar End Shifters will work ok with Campag 10 speed components. The spacing difference between the two formats on the rear cassette is tiny.

 

 

 

 

This only makes sense if you are using a Shimano rear derailleur. There is actually a significant difference in the amount of cable pulled per click between Shimano and Campag.

 

 

 

Interestingly, the amount of cable pulled per Campy 10spd click is almost exactly the same as Sram.

 

 

 

Therefore, if you have difficulty getting Campy shifters, you are better off looking for Sram substitutes.

[Kiwi]

I used to run Campagnolo Record 10 Carbon Ergos with a Dura Ace 10 Rear Mech and Dura Ace Cassette no problems.

 

Here's some info on the actual ratios involved: http://www.cyclingforums.com/rec-bicycles-tech/317399-shimergo-another-compatibility-question.html

 

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[mataz]

Ok, thanks Kiwi, so you reckon the indexing on Dura Ace shifters will work as well with a Centaur Derailleur and Record Cassette?

[Kiwi]

I think so. I wonder if the slight difference between the Shimano cassette I used and a Campagnolo cassette will cause any problems.

 

BTW I'll be racing on Saturaday with Shimano type bar end shifters and Shimano type front and rear mechs and a Campagnolo cassette, that works too.

 

[Johan Bornman]

You will also get better results if you use a floating guide pulley (top jockey pulley) instead of one of the new-fangled ball-bearing ones. Shimano and Campag pulleys are designed differently for top and bottom. The top one has about 1mm side-to-side play and the bottom one is rigid. This is to prevent noise with gear settings that are slightly out.

With the set-up Kiwi described above, the setting will be out by 0.2mm on the largest sprocket if it was perfect in the smallest sprocket (10 x 0.02mm). That's enough for the floating pulley to absorb.

 

 

 

[mataz]

And this floating guide pulley you are talking about is the device Velo pointed out I assume?

[Johan Bornman]

And this floating guide pulley you are talking about is the device Velo pointed out I assume?

 

 

 

No no no no no. That's a Rolllamajig - a highly dlubious device designed to catch crud and decrease shifting performance.

 

I'm talking about the standard jockey pulleys - those two black wheels in the jockey cage.