I see the chickens are ...............

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..................heading home to Denmark to roost.................!!

 

I wonder when CSC will make a position known on this matter, they cannot keep quite much longer.

 

Riis booted out of Danish HOF

2007-5-31 14:19

Copenhagen - Denmark has removed retired cyclist Bjarne Riis from its sports Hall of Fame after he admitted using performance-enhancing drugs during his 1996 Tour de France victory.

"We consider his effort as being fraud," Else Trangbaek, head of the committee in charge of the hall, told Danish radio on Thursday. "On that basis, one cannot be part of the list."

Riis, the sole Dane to have won the French cycling classic, said last week that he used EPO from 1993 to 1998, including during his Tour victory. He also said he no longer considered himself a worthy winner of the Tour, and indicated he would be willing to give back the yellow winner's jersey.

His confession came amid a flurry of admissions by former Telekom riders that they used EPO.

Other names in the Danish sports hall of fame include former soccer player Michael Laudrup, Kenyan-born 800m world champion Wilson Kipketer and sailing great Paul Elvstrom, who won four straight Olympic gold medals between 1948 and 1960.

AP

[scotty]

I dont see how CSC can keep him on, in light of recent happenings. How can he be tasked to keep the team clean when he himself was guilty. I reckon a lot more skeletons are still to be uncovered.

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Oh absolutely Scotty.!

 

CSC has stayed very quite, but sooner or later they will need to make their position clear and its really only two choices - stay or go.

 

He may have done great things for brand CSC, but, like the Wolfowitz world bank debacle, you cannot have the head of affairs preaching one thing but guilty of quite the opposite.

[ORCA]

I dont see how CSC can keep him on' date=' in light of recent happenings. How can he be tasked to keep the team clean when he himself was guilty. I reckon a lot more skeletons are still to be uncovered. [/quote']

 

 

but remember he is the team owner, csc may withdraw their sponsorship<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

 

 funny how it's suddenly just telekom thats been using, what about saeco, mercatone uno, mapei, tvm, motorola ect, all big name teams from the 90's

 

[Poison Ivy]

I dont see how CSC can keep him on' date=' in light of recent happenings. How can he be tasked to keep the team clean when he himself was guilty. I reckon a lot more skeletons are still to be uncovered. [/quote']

  

 funny how it's suddenly just telekom thats been using, what about saeco, mercatone uno, mapei, tvm, motorola ect, all big name teams from the 90's

 

 

Good Q, I think many of the TVM riders of old have already been caught out.

 

I wonder if Ivan Basso phoned Riis last week...the conversation must have been like this: "you you  you SOB; you hypocrate    ...." or something like

[Cruxpearl]

Hmmmm.... Rather think it would be something like....

"Eish Bjarne, sorry that you had to confess man, at least I only half confessed to save my Giro Win, but you're OK, it's more than 8 years ago!! so you're gonna keep your win"

"Aw sh*t man.... I really didn't think that they would find you at Fuentes ?van, and now with this Hondt dick's confession, I had to confess, and now we're all gonna fall!!!!"

[linnega]

The real difference is that many of the other teams consistently refused to discuss the issue of doping.  Telekom made the stance that they were categorically anti-doping.

 

As for Riis, I am not sure that it is that big an issue for Riis to continue with the team.  They have contracted a noted anti-doping expert and, while I know everyone has their price, I don't think CSC could have bought his services without him being convinced that the program would be effective.  If the CSC program fails (and I can assure you that many journalists are digging to see if they can find cracks), then Damsgaard's career both as an expert in anti-doping and as a journalist is over.  I believe CSC will assess their sponsirship for 2009 and decide whether they continue to invest, but to jump ship now would be probably be overly reactive.

 

I do however, think that Riis needs to do two things.  Firstly, publicly return his yellow jersey to the ASO and apologise.  Secondly, he needs to make sure that he is not involved in the Tour at all.  Another DS needs to run the show and he needs to take a back seat.  It will better for his sponsor and for his riders, and will go a long way to appeasing the ASO who are seeing their brand (the TDF) damaged again.  The ASO are potentially the biggest losers in this saga as the German TV rights (which are being pulled from 2009) alone are worth more than the pocket change needed to run a Protour team, even one of CSC's stature.

[PokerFace]

He is not a cyclist in Team CSC! He is also doing a lot to fight doping at this time ;maybe because of his guilty conscience, who knows. It would serve no purpose to fire him from his current position.

[Poison Ivy]

I agree, Scott Sunderland is doing a good job at the Giro as D/S for CSC can't see why he can't do the same at TdF. 

 

If memory serves me correctly it took Richard Virenque more than two years to come clean after the Festina debacle in 1998.  I think its a question of lying to them selves (and others)  for so long, they start believing those lies...

 

but the past is the past, can't be undone. However I still believe riders still dope even as we speak and always will, but the playing flied with DNA testing is just a little more even right now.

[butafly]

he knows all the in and outs of taking drugs -  i'd say keep him in the team. it takes one to catch one.

[Tumbleweed]

simple, a tour winner dopes, keeps quiet: he's out. forget forgiving. do we want more virenques

[Guest colonel]

CSC cant kick him out of the team as manager, the team is Riis Racing with CSC as a sponsor. If CSC decides to not pull its sponsorhip it will carry on as normal if it does then Riis Racing will need to find a new sponsor for Bjarne's team.

[Tumbleweed]

morning colonel, you're right. i meant he should be out of the sport. riis is kinda like manolo saiz. no matter how much crap he caused, he kept on coming back

[Christie]

Saw oon cyclingnews.com that MAN has pulled its sponsorship of CSC:

In a press release issued Friday, the company said, "MAN has been sponsoring professional cycling under the impression that this was an effective marketing tool but in the light of recent developments, the Company has decided no longer to pursue its sponsorship of this sport. Already after the doping scandals last summer, MAN had negotiated to end the contract with Team CSC however the team's anti-doping initiative persuaded the Company to remain a sponsor."

It concluded, "Now MAN has been disappointed again by the revelations about the use of prohibited substances in the 1990s and for this reason no longer considers it appropriate to employ professional cycling as a platform for corporate branding.

[Delgado]

And he used it only for a season? Almost as believable as Museuuw who claims only to have used EPO in his final season? Ya sure!! 

[porky]

To be blunt Rijs Racing without a sponsor is just as good as been kicked out - it would be a hollow "company of straw" lacking funds, integrity and good will. 

 

In other words bankrupt!!.

 

Personally, I think Rijs is a dishonest man - no apology changes that, it just brings the dishonesty into the light.

 

I see now the UCI is considering an amnesty for cyclists who confess to doping in the past.