LazyTrailRider

@ChrisF has there been any further progress made? Haven’t been there in about a year and would love to take my wife there for her first off-tar ride on her new bike soon…

Hmmm, from what I understand it’s a very simple set of rubbers stops in cups. I think you’re referring to the hydraulic bottom-out on the rear shocks only.

@MTBRIDER1234 the important thing here is that you'll notice a drastic improvement from your Motion Control damper. In the last few years I've had several forks with Motion Control (Revelations, mostly), a Pike RCT, a Pike RC, and an older Fox 36 Factory. I now have a Lyrik Ultimate 2.1 and a Fox 34 with a normal Grip damper (both are 2021 models). The step up from RC to Charger 2.1 is significant, and the difference between a normal Grip and the 2.1 is also very noticeable, albeit on a different chassis. Get the one that looks raddest on your bike.

I'm willing to bet R1000 that in a blind test with two forks set up exactly the same, no one on this forum would be able to tell which is which between a Lyrik Ultimate and a 36 Factory.

Ah yes, I had one snatched from me last week…

I can confirm that this doesn’t work. Kudos are irrelevant to me and and I wish you could disable them completely, but alas you cannot. Segment leaderboards, PRs and KOMs however, now we’re talking 😉

I was looking at them recently, fully specced they’re closer to R900k… https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for-sale/volvo/xc40/t5/26458960?vf=2&db=1&s360=0&so=1&pl=1&po=1

Want.

Yip, because it's illegal to share someone's personal details without their consent. Some new info: I managed to find out that it was purchased around mid 2021. Yup, brand new.

As with most things, there are a few factors. Personally, I don't think a current-gen Fenix is worth the asking price (not for me, at least). But at this price I was keen if it was actually in "brand new condition" and not sweated on more than a few times because as far as the Instinct goes: I have dainty wrists and the Instinct is far too bulky and military-looking for me. This actually goes for the full Fenix also. I like colour screens. I actually really like Suunto's styling, including their layout and typefaces, so it would be a great option except that: I need to be able to pair and broadcast HR to my Edge (because that's what I use on my road rides). I use Garmin Connect to sync all my data in one place. It doesn't have NFC for tap-to-pay.

Looks like I was wrong all along!

Sent him a link to this thread on WA, he blocked me immediately. Who does that? [Names removed], karma will get you...

Yes, but I mistook the "bubbles" on the Christmas theme watch face for the bubbles from a screen protector still fitted, which in a hurry my brain told me means it clearly still had to be very new...

Generally, I've been a combination of lucky and thorough. I've bought three cars (one was R500k) and a Stumpy from across the country without seeing them in person, this was a sloppy evaluation from my side which I should have been more careful with... 🙄

Indeed, but he's been a member since 2013 and was very pleasant in initial comms, so I took him at face value...

Sure, but it seems they're simply pulling the "I can't afford to replace it anyway, even if I wanted" card. Is it a valid card? Obviously not, but doesn't look like they care.... Thanks everyone for confirming that I'm really not being unreasonable about this. I'd like [name removed] (the seller) to clarify exactly when it was purchased and give me a realistic estimate of how many times it was used, so that I can accurately represent this when I sell it again (which I'm considering doing, for less obviously) so that I can get one which is actually in brand new condition (likely a brand new one, pardon the pun). I didn't notice this on the photos, but there was a Christmas watch face applied (he told me this after I'd already paid), which should have been an immediate "OK, so it's at least 6 months old" flag. So you learn.

Yet again, ye old subjectivity (or not, read below) chestnut strikes... So I see an ad for a Garmin Fenix 6S listed by someone who's been a member for 8 years, described as "Brand new condition, my wife only wore it for a few training sessions and wants to go back to Forerunner". I think "Cool, this is good value at R7k, it's a discount of R2.5k from new for losing the warranty, but that's fine if it's in brand new condition". At this stage, the phrase "brand new condition" evokes an image of what I imagine to be a reasonable definition. What's that, you ask? In exactly the same condition as new, but has been unboxed and maybe used three times carefully, but still indistinguishable from new to the naked eye. Maybe there's a drop of sweat on it, if you're nitpicking. Fair? I pay, the buyer sends it via Postnet, and I excitedly collect it this morning, As I open the box, I see the images below. Nope, not brand new after all. What do I do? I message the buyer and in short this is what happens: Me: "I'm really sorry, but I'm very particular about my stuff and this is not in the condition it was described to be. I'm happy to pay the postage back to you, can we please reverse the transaction?" Him: "I'm sorry, didn't realise, will get my wife to contact you." His wife: "Sorry, but I've already replaced it with a Forerunner so we can't take it back. It's a voetstoots sale on Facebook (Ed: No, it was on here) and there is nothing wrong with it. May have a few marks but I trained with it so that's normal." Me: "It's disappointing to hear that you're not willing to do the right thing. It was described by your husband as "brand new condition", which clearly is a misrepresentation of the facts. It's in good condition, sure, but not brand new. See for example the scratch on the lens. I'll pay the shipping back to you with pleasure. I've sold and bought many items on BikeHub over the years and the system is based on trust, which is different to FB Marketplace. I hope you can appreciate that." His wife: "Stop bullying me, I physically cannot afford it right now. Will let you know when I can, but that's not now." Me: "Erm, OK, didn't realise I was "bullying" you, but OK. I'm simply going to give your husband a poor review. Enjoy the Forerunner!" Her: "OK" ________ Really? I message the husband again saying that I'm disappointed in how they're handling it. Guess what his response is: "I said she wore it, did not say it was in the box and never used. My view of what's brand new seem to be different to yours. Mine is used, that one is very good and the price also". No shoot, Sherlock! Very clearly your view of what's brand new differs from mine... This was a lapse in my judgement, I should have known better. People can be amazingly divergent in their perceptions of quality and condition, and I know this. I should have peppered with him questions and requests for up close photos. I was sloppy.... Still not cool though. What gets me most (again, I know this is common) is how someone who thinks they can afford a R9.5k sports watch literally doesn't have enough money (according to them) to temporarily float the value of a second watch. The mind boggles. UPDATE: As of 18 May, I managed to determine (because the seller eventually told me) that the Fenix was originally bought somewhere (their memory failed them) mid 2021, so in all likelihood it was close to a year old when sold to me. SUMMARY: I would dissuade all who read this from buying anything from [I've removed their names], in all the dealings I have had with them they have been dishonest, dismissive and evasive about the facts at hand. UPDATE August 1st 2023: The seller's wife contacted me and apologised for how the situation was handled originally, and offered to reimburse me for the difference in what the value should have realistically been (I estimate R5.5k instead of R7k). I declined, but said that I'll remove their names regardless, and hopefully everyone learns something from this. I learnt that one absolutely cannot trust the opinions of strangers on anything that requires a subjective assessment (this is such an obvious thing, duh) and hopefully they've learnt that misrepresenting facts and then refusing to back down is not a lekker thing to do. Here's hoping some good karma was spread...

Haha. Yes, it works fine on the road and gravel, but definitely does not translate well to technical riding…

This just reminded me how rubbish thumbshifters were, even the expensive-feeling XT ones…

I've done the Snakes and Vasbyt on my gravel bike. Won't do it again 😜

Touché on being faster, haha! Of course it’s possible to shred on any bike, but slowpokes like me need all the help we can get… I hear what you’re saying about the purpose of a trail bike. Mine is obviously way more capable than I need (160/150 f/r with a 63.5 HA and 77 SA and 2.6” soft-compound rubber), but that’s simply because at my advanced age I like to ride up to max 80% of my capabilities and not be shaken up too much on the way down. Could the EVO better a better climber? For sure, but to be honest the kinematics have improved so much from my previous 2019 Stumpy that it actually climbs better even though it has 10mm more travel and is 3deg slacker. That’s tech development for you. Besides, if I need to get to the top of the hill fast, I take the lazy way out and use the Levo. My nick isn’t what it is for nothing 😉

Randomly found this “old” comment now. Just this morning, my brother and I were talking about how steep 66deg is and how much we’ve now gotten used to our 63.5deg machines. How times have changed!

I do over 100 trips/year with my Thule Euroway 923. The middle stand was removed about 2 years ago because it's pointless, 2 big bikes (combination of a Levo and Stumpy, even 2x Levos) go on with zero fiddling or touching. When I say zero fiddling, I mean zero, it takes all of a minute to load both bikes if I'm in a hurry. I've also had hang-on and roof racks, but there is no question at all that platform is simply better. I can't imagine lifting bikes onto the roof twice or three times a week. Just no. This is on a Golf GTI. I wouldn't be able to deal with a car with a silly central exhaust/diffuser which eliminates the towball option 😜 Actually, I would love a new M135i, but it's a no-go due to that.

Yeah, my Levo SL Comp Carbon comes with NX and a Fox 34 Rhythm (which in itself is actually pretty good but it's obviously not a Factory) for R145k. Not the greatest value...

No man! So sorry to hear, that sucks... Orpen Road is one of my weekend morning staples, albeit not that early. Glad to hear you're unscathed!