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So you are suggesting that we take to twitter....say derogatory things about anyone we don't like....hopefully they prove that we are wrong and we simply look like a tool....sounds lik a nice way to be a douche without admitting to being a douche....

And then there was this fella....Ron Jeremy....his classmates would never have seen it cummin.... http://thecount.com/wp-content/uploads/ron_jeremy.jpeg

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Look what you made me do ..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Margold

I missed the bit where anyone here defended her....can you point us to those posts ?

And even there people took to tweeta calling it a load of hogwash and suggested the pharmacist was paid to lie.....

I am not sure...maybe because his wife decided to take over...

I agree with you a million times over...the bold bit is where I am a little more stubborn....ZK was being flamed because he had no conclusive evidence....ZK might now get flamed again because his motives for being an anti-doping crusader is called in to question....I think in the end of the day...don't dope....don't say stuff in public you might regret....in short...don't be an @$$hole (not referring to you) unless of course we want to be stravasholes.....

But post the entire string....this was the offending tweet which they used from a legal standpoint....it was the mess it melted in to after the tweet was made....

Again...no horse in this race for me and no favourite either....but when you make fleeting statements about a convicted cyclists riding partner....then the odds are already very thin and with a little bit of logic everyone knows who you are referring to...no need to even mention a name....kinda like a boomerang effect....KE went on a rampage and understandably so...it's human nature to want to defend ourselves and our honour...what I would not have done if I was KE....I would not have gone on that that rampage if I knew that I was actually doping...

I also heard the rumours about the stuff in the fridge...very much as the many stories about the Jozi ICG group....but without actually seeing anything which would make it conclusive...it makes it nothing more than speculation which could lead to defamation....

If you are heading in the direction which my mind is heading off in....this could be a miraculous day...us agreeing on something..

But even the " off the record stuff " could just be pure rumours....jealousy...speculation spread as fact....without any actual and factual proof it's all speculative...a birdie recently informed me of a fella (someone very verbal against these dopers) who happens to be on the juice and it's speculated by a few that this fella is on the juice....but there is no real hard facts surrounding those suspicions....

I did ask that question but it was shot down by a few and avoided by others....????????

Correct....letter to duck then - justifiable .... Letter to duck now - not justifiable ....

Annual training exercise in appreciation........and observe how not to act as tto be classified as the "windgatste nasie op 'n eiland".

Yes folks, that's true....

In the end of the day it's all about palmarés ......

Again...nowhere or anywhere as a matter of fact was your character brought in to the equation..I never made Olcoot out to be a victim.....it's a simple and clear observation on your comment So is he the victim now? This thread also started out about Kevin accepting his doping charge...not the mess he and his band of buddies caused....it has since spiralled in to a discussion around all things doping as well as the Emma Sadlier incident...it clearly shows that we are passionate about dopers getting caught....

Careful as you often read too much in to what is being posted without actually clarifying it for yourself or understanding the context....but this I will say...the chaps that baited Oldcoot aren't angel either...cycling is the victim...as for your reference in him deleting his timeline...I was not impressed by that...it does look a bit like a cop out...but then again none of us were in his shoes.....as for our opinions here on The Hub...how many of the opinions on this thread have been totally and completely unbiased...every single one of us comments from some emotional connection and that could easily sway the way we feel...post or conduct ourselves...

True what you are saying...but let's ponder on this for a minute....we were chatting this weekend during a ride....most of us see the doc when we don't feel well..we take the prescription and drugs prescribed without even thinking twice...imagine pitching up at a race in the ZZ batch and they come and randomly test you....before you can even blink your name is public and your are a doper.....the horror of it all

Of course not....but if they want to compete then they are welcome to a TUE....

Very much the same thing that happens here on The Hub...and often the baiters get public sympathy when things explode...looking back over that ORIGINAL war this past weekend....things got pretty ugly....

But then what's the point...you dope to win....