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haha. Jaja, I think that was Stoner's specialty on the Duc, remember how many times he folded the front end

He does not only complain about not being on a factory bike, he also says things like if he did not have traffic in front of him, of if he did not mess up quali, he could have been on the front row etc. Or if he wasnt held up in the race at the start he could have been with the aliens in front ... ain't happening not matter what.

CC also talks way more than he walks ... figure of speech. Always saying he COULD have done this and COULD have done that if not for this or that, but never does.

You guys need to sign the petition ... https://www.change.org/p/motogp-race-director-mike-webb-remove-the-penalty-from-valentino-rossi-and-bring-back-integrity-to-the-championship-2246013d-9c5a-44e9-b306-02c667fce09c

Wow on my own here now, and Steven it seems haha. Yes, read somewhere MM does alot of flat track stuff, to force himself to get new ways of passing people

Setups probably also play a big role. MM on last years chassis, and Pedro on this years. MM could just not get the new one to work for him. MM needs that rear wheel sliding out alot it seems, where Pedro does not do that, he rides more like the guys on the Yamahas. MM style can make him the fastest rider, but it seems a risky style as well.

You saying control himself, or control the Honda ... problem is if he rides within his limits then he'll end up in 5th, but he needed to over-ride that Honda way too much this year. But I agree, he needs to grow up a little and learn from his mistakes. Yup, JL fastest on his own, but MM is a more complete rider, in that he can fight and be aggressive, and also clear off on his own, he does not mind either. Michelin tyres ... wonder if Rossi will get a "special" assignment like he did few years back ... Here's a table that summarizes the rules : https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/03/23/the_2015_motogp_rules_primer_engines_fue.html

No way in hell will they drop him, crap to admit it, but he is the fastest guy in MotoGP at present ... all might change next year with the new rules though, maybe Yamaha does not have a competitive bike (highly unlikely), and then he might leave. When Rossi left for Ducati, I think they sort of choose JL above Rossi in way, in their minds he was more of a title challenger than Rossi at that time. Yup Pedro always been on a Honda ...

Don't think JL will ever leave Yamaha (well hopefully not, I can't stand the guy), and I think he will find the Honda just unrideable for his style. He might take 2 years to adapt, then it's too late. Pedro will probably be fine on the Yamaha. Reckon once you can ride the Honda, then any other bike is easy (other than the Duc that Stoner left everyone ...)

After reading a lot of articles on this whole episode, and looking at the bigger picture, I do think he did intentionally interfere with Rossi in the way of making aggressive passes every 2nd corner and stuffing up Rossi's rhythm at Sepang. PI it was alot less obvious, but he might have also.

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/10/27/2015_sepang_motogp_round_up_heroes_who_h.html Long read but a must read if you're interested in the whole debacle

Would love to see him battle with JL, just to prove all the people thinking they have a bromance wrong ... JL never been my favourite

If Rossi is correct then MM is a douche and needs to be penalized and banned and taught a lesson

haha Lorenzo seems to have even less supporters than MM

As I said above, do not agree with his actions at Assen, but at Sepang no issue for me without proof from telemetry

If I can get 2000km out of a rear I'm happy, I would give up longevity for outright grip any day. Will be putting my current Rocket Ron front on the back, it also has done 2500km and still looks almost new, guess it will start wearing alot faster.

Thats some big miles there ... I got 2500km out of a Racing Ralph now on the back, which I would think is already alot, granted Schwalbe is a softer tyre. Was 80% dirt though so that probably helps. My new 2.35 NN for the front is on its way today, will probably be huge on the wide lightning

Depends on what actions you refer to, Assen yes for example, Sepang no. I would call him a douche/knob if it could be proven that he did interfere, but that proof is only in the telemetry data sitting with HRC. The outrage about this is because Rossi mentioned it and now everyone sees it around every corner and points fingers. So let's say Rossi never said anything in the press conference, would MM still be called a knob for interfering? I'm 1000% sure none of us here would have known any better of what was going on, it would have looked like a normal dice, until Rossi pushed him wide.

Need to replace my cassette, and have a new cassette and chain to put on. Do i need to replace my nw raceface as well, or can i use it with the new chain and casette eg is it suggested to just replace everything at once, or can the chainring last 2 chains? Will the chainring causes premature wear on the new chain

Congrats to dani rode a lorenzo like hammer of a race from the start, and managed it perfectly.

But what else should mm have done in that situ? Ive seen riders for years "leaning" on each other and nothing came of it. Its something that happens in racing. I think the rulebook talks, no use in argueing who did what. Agree with the move in assen, should have got penalty for it, but here, mm did nothing wrong in the rulebook, and rossi did. Rossi screwed the champ up for himself by running mm wide. Rossi childish "mind games" have finally bit him big

So should mm just also sit up, take off his helmet and they could then talk it out next to the track? Rossi gave him nothing else to do, deliberaty trying to run him wide, and thus causing a crash, which is against the rules I didnt see any dangerous passes from mm, they were all clean or acceptable I do think that mm caused the fall himself though, there was no kick of anything like that

So title is decided, well done Lorenzo and sorry Rossi but you broke the rules there. If Rossi did not want mm to pass him the whole time he should have been faster plain and simple. Rossi has met his match in race craft now, Marquez will always fight back no matter how many times he gets overtaken, nothing wrong with that.

Do you think that Marquez helped out Lorenzo at Phillip Island? “It is indeed true that Marquez did not play with both of us: he only played with me! It is important that he knows that I know! Now let's see what happens, but I am quite concerned because to have to fight with Lorenzo is one thing, but if you have to beat Marquez as well, everything becomes much more difficult, to be honest - the case is that he isn’t playing fair (something that a professional rider has to do in these situations). Especially because Marquez could be very competitive in the last two races.” “For me it was a big disappointment, I was upset, it was from a few races ago that I knew, but I did not expect him to do something so obvious. I feel disappointment, regret and worry, because surely he will try to do it here and also in Valencia.” So why did he eventually also overtake Lorenzo? “In the race I noticed it, but I did not understand; Marquez was a step above everyone, but instead of trying to try to battle Lorenzo, he stayed with me to fight with Iannone and others. He knew that I was losing out to the Ducati on the straight. And so every time I tried to pass him, he re-overtook me (super-aggressive, but thats the way it is). But then he slowed to create a gap to Jorge. His bad luck was that on Sunday Jorge was not so strong, because otherwise it would have been over already. Instead, he always kept Jorge in check, knowing that he could catch him within 3 laps, and then tried to slow me and Iannone, perhaps trying to put other riders between me and Lorenzo. And in the end, that's what he did. It is clearly quite worrying, but it doesn't worry me too much” Why do you think he did this? “Because he would prefer Lorenzo to win. He is angry at me for a personal matter. Although he never said it, he thinks that in Argentina I made him crash; and then at Assen he is still thinking about the last chicane, in his head he feels he should have won that race. Since then he has been angry and thinking like a child: I do not win, but you do not win either. At this point, the lesser evil is for him is for Lorenzo to win.” Is it something that motivates you or makes you angry? "Let's see. Because if he's faster yet slows down to get involved in the battles further back, it could become difficult. Because he has nothing to lose, but I do. I have to be wary. I'm sorry and I'm quite angry. I did not expect that Marquez was an obstacle for this Championship, I thought I was only fighting against Jorge, as it should be.” Because he used to idolise you, did you think this wouldn't happen? "Watch out, here we must make a clarification: did he really idolise me? Did he really have my poster at home? I'm not so sure. I'd like to go back in time and see. It will also be a question of character, he is competing with me: I want to win as many World Championships as I can. If I win another title, then he knows that he will have to win one more to overtake me. If instead Jorge wins, then they have more or less the same.” Was it better with Biaggi, because he at least made his feelings clear? "It's true you are right. In the long run, I prefer more his behaviour. We were obnoxious to each other, but at least it was clear and honest. But I do not have his phone number.” Did this all begin in Laguna Seca? “There have been lots of moments, at Laguna Seca he wanted to do what I had done to Stoner five years before, when he could easily have passed three corners later. It was the first signal. And I said so, but I did not want to believe it. To think evil, it takes forever.” Wanting to make a literary comparison, since we are in Malaysia, do you feel like Sandokan fighting Yanez? "I would not know. I do not think that there is this difference between me and Lorenzo. I think we're both brave, each in his own way, and also a bit cunning."

As David Emmett says, the Rossi-MM love affair is over ... MM said if he wanted to help JL, he would not have passed him on the last lap. So basically ITA vs SPN ...