'Dale Posted January 9, 2012 Share Cycle lane's very groovy if heading out to the West Coast, or chortling to town past cars stuck in the traffic. More a commuter thing? I used to use the Castle Brewery to town bit, but I actually enjoy the interaction between cycle, car and taxi. Wakes me up for the morning. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted January 9, 2012 Share I am stating that ANY riders who does not use cycling lanes (anywhere) must resort to riding 'responsibly' on the normal roads adjacent to it.Of course, if there is a rider or riders with team kit involved, those riders must be brand aware and that their actions is more highlighted by the public. I don't ride responsibly because I am brand aware. I ride responsibly because I understand self-preservation and I have a family to support. I've been doing it for a very long time and I think I speak for all team riders when I say that we don't need to read the hub for guidance on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaymondC Posted January 9, 2012 Share "haters gonna hate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted January 9, 2012 Share I don't ride responsibly because I am brand aware. I ride responsibly because I understand self-preservation and I have a family to support. I've been doing it for a very long time and I think I speak for all team riders when I say that we don't need to read the hub for guidance on the matter.This is not guidance, just my view (nothing more, nothing less) that if you're gonna wear a team's brand on your back, be aware that your riding style on roads, will get noticed and adjudged by the public. Whether justifiable or not.Like Spiderman, with power comes responsibility.... Hahaha! Agree with me or not. Your call. No matter how long you've been doing something or experienced you are, there's always stuff to appreciate and/or learn, eh? Edited January 9, 2012 by ' Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted January 9, 2012 Share No matter how long you've been doing something or experienced you are, there's always stuff to appreciate and/or learn, eh? definitely, you just get more picky about who you listen to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted January 9, 2012 Share definitely, you just get more picky about who you listen to For sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted January 10, 2012 Share Please go and look again, I know for a fact and have seen the above clubs on the cycle lane, but not between sunset beach and t-view...I know lots of people who do not like riding that stretch or the section from the parden eiland to the harbour turn off. For various reasons... What you do not say is where you saw Kevin and George? Maybe they were on the section that EVERYONE uses....I have also seen the above clubs ride on those sections when on their MTB, maybe it is a puncture thing. Why stir? It was a CTM rider, and no he was not with the Anderson Transport / Aurecon riders. He was riding with a Cycles Direct group. All I said is that it is cool that big names use the lane, and uncool that the local whannabees ride 3 abreast on a road with no shoulder. The post was meant to point out that 2 of our best known riders deem the cycle lane suitable and that the locals should maybe follow their example. If I had a real problem with the Anderson Transport rider I would have contacted Heimer and discussed it with him and proceeded to name and shame here. I ride the lane with my roadbike and mtb regularly and have not seen anyone puncture on this section, so that's pure bull***t if you ask me. Maybe the overreaction is from people who know that they are doing wrong. Now if any of you's see more well known riders on the lane, post it here. That's what this thread is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted January 10, 2012 Share Sometimes we use the lane, sometimes we do not. Sometimes David George rides in a fashion that meets with your approval, and sometimes he is doing intervals on a national highway. Ask yourself, are riders not using the lane because they are vindictively undermining a project that is close to your heart? If the answer is no then why have a go at them here? If the answer is yes then have the balls to confront them one on one or go ahead and phone Heimer or whoever else you think will be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted January 10, 2012 Share Sometimes you are cool and somerimes you are not. Sometimes pros jump over fences and gets escorted off the farm, and sometimes we all need to move on. Not even my wife refers to anything older than a week if we ever argue. If I wanted to have a go at anyone in particular I would have used first names on the hub. I know that sponsors track the use of their team names in online forums and good team managers take appropriate action if they see a threat to the team image. I'm not saying that any riders will get suspended from their teams because some guy posts about irresponsible riding on the hub, but tomorrow its in the newspapers and then its damage control all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted January 10, 2012 Share I know that sponsors track the use of their team names in online forums and good team managers take appropriate actionYou're right there - I have some unprintable messages about your thread on my phone and I have acted with restraint here. I've said enough though and you're right, lets move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niner Posted January 10, 2012 Share It was a CTM rider, and no he was not with the Anderson Transport / Aurecon riders. He was riding with a Cycles Direct group. All I said is that it is cool that big names use the lane, and uncool that the local whannabees ride 3 abreast on a road with no shoulder. The post was meant to point out that 2 of our best known riders deem the cycle lane suitable and that the locals should maybe follow their example. If I had a real problem with the Anderson Transport rider I would have contacted Heimer and discussed it with him and proceeded to name and shame here. I ride the lane with my roadbike and mtb regularly and have not seen anyone puncture on this section, so that's pure bull***t if you ask me. Maybe the overreaction is from people who know that they are doing wrong. Now if any of you's see more well known riders on the lane, post it here. That's what this thread is for. If you know that sponsors check these sites for name why did you mention Anderson Transport / Aurecon riders in your original post? Why do you think that it is your duty to police the cycle lane? What about the other users (that use their bikes as their sole transport?) how do you reach out to them to educate them about the bike lane? I think that your post should have stopped at "Big shout out to David George and Kevin Evans for using the bike lane this morning." Maybe we can learn from them. I have punctured on that lane...so it is NOT BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted January 10, 2012 Share If you know that sponsors check these sites for name why did you mention Anderson Transport / Aurecon riders in your original post? - Because they were riding 3 abreast on a road with no shoulder. Don't forget the Cape Town Market and Cycles Direct riders too. Just now I get blasted for not mentioning them again. Why do you think that it is your duty to police the cycle lane? What about the other users (that use their bikes as their sole transport?) how do you reach out to them to educate them about the bike lane? - Not policing the cycling lane, rather stating FACT that the only riders not using them on this particular morning were the whannabe pro's. Note I took an easy ride with my wife and apologies to the pro teams that did in fact ride on the road with the teams mentioned and that is not mentioned in this post. If I was policing the lane I would have taken pictchas of the riders and their elite racing numbers and posted it on here. I think that your post should have stopped at "Big shout out to David George and Kevin Evans for using the bike lane this morning." Maybe we can learn from them. - and then you state that some pro teams dont use the lane and people say that you are vague and you should be more specific. I have punctured on that lane...so it is NOT BS. - I have punctured on the road next to the lane before the bike lane was there. Saying that you'll get MORE punctures on the bike lane is BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted January 10, 2012 Share May this thread pick a double puncture soon... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted January 10, 2012 Share May this thread pick a double puncture soon... :lol:agree. Not sure why there was such an over reaction here. Maybe its just the way things are on the hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 10, 2012 Share I agree that it's good for commuting or maybe riding in 1's and 2's. But for a full team, such at ctm, to ride in the lane is unethical imo. And Heman, where is it law that if there is a cycling lane a cyclist must use it?Everybody is entitled to make use of the road. Only chipping in this conversation now, but surely the cycle lane or at least half the lane is far safer and more ethical to ride on in a group who ride behind eachother than riding on the road where there is often no shoulder on that stretch .... if you are say 10 riders on the tared road do you all ride next to eachother on the road or behind eachother ....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 10, 2012 Share I have commuted this route intermittently now for 9 years and the cycle lane must be saving lives. I had also picked up countless punctures on the road prior to the cycle lanes being constructed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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