Neg Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) So i got my new brakes, they are Avid Elixir 9's. i swapped the XT shifters out for my Sram grip shifts, but the adjusting knob on the brakes for the lever travel gets in the way when i want to place the brakes up against the shifters. does anyone know if i can remove these knobs? regards. Edited February 24, 2012 by Neg VT
Capricorn Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) show us the setup pls. bit difficult imagining what u referring to. but off the cuff, you probably need to rotate your brakes or the shifters just a bit to get the necessary clearance. Not a big deal. edit: i see the placement of the reach adjust knob. Quite different from my Elixir CRs, which the 2012 Elixir 9 replaces. http://www.nsmb.com/assets/images/gear/avid2012/Elixir9_Lever_Storm-Grey-Ano.jpg Also, which side of the brake clamp do you clamp your shifters: grip side or stem side? Edited February 25, 2012 by Capricorn
Capricorn Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 this is an interesting bit of info gleaned from trolling the web abuot the 2012 range of avid brakes: The reach adjust has moved from the bottom of the lever on the front of the piston body to inside the lever, inline with the piston. This feature is standard, and they’ve intentionally designed it to force you to move the lever a bit further inboard from the grip. Morland (media relations guy at Avid) says this puts it the lever in the proper position (versus having the lever clamp directly against the inside edge of your grip).source
Neg Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 Well that's just daft of them!!!! i use grip shift and makes the brake lever extend about 20mm from the edge of the grip shift. this leads to the lever being "too short" and i now have one finger braking where i usually have two... can i take those knobs out??
Capricorn Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 sorry for my sheer silliness: i didnt register the fact u using a gripshift, hence the ultra dumb q about where your shifter is located. Apologies. but why do u use two fingers to brake? I mean no disrespect with that question as I fully appreciate each person has individual riding styles and in this instance, it's not a right or wrong way.But you dont need two fingers to brake, at all. That's always been an advantage of hydraulic braking. Also, with one finger more on the grip, control through the rough is more assured. Lastly, with the lever further toward the stem, it's less likely that the tip of the brake lever will squeeze the finger next2 the braking finger, thus less reason for two finger braking. but the setup depicted in your photo above is a bit of a PITA. Any chance you can set the level throw, and then remove that top knob? I high doubt this is necessary, but might be an option in a pinch.
Neg Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) ive just tried to remove it, it seems like it wont come out, i turn it the way it should come out and it locks the brakes... .then i too the screw at the back of the knob out and the knob comes off but the pin under it is just as long.. the knob is on a pin that is spring loaded and that turns the adjustment inside. i will have to open the entire brake to remove this pin and knob! but then i wont have adjustment... and it might not work.... Edited February 25, 2012 by Neg VT
Guest Omega Man Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Ooh. Bad design there by avid. Looks like those will only work with trigger style shifters. I know it's a bit late for this but triggers on those brakes are awesome. theirs a nice matchmaker setup that allows you to have your brakes, shifters and dropper post lever all on the same bar clamp. All sram parts tho. You could buy aftermarket brake levers from straitline. they are a tiny bit longer and will pimp your bike out nicely. Edited February 25, 2012 by Omega Man
Neg Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 im considering the long break levers.... i dont like Shimano components, more on the shifters and derailure side.... the brakes and cranks and other bits are good. AND to add insult to injury... Sram triggers don't have rapid fire on the down shift... only up...... so i guess longer leavers will be the answer... even just 10mm will help!
Capricorn Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Ooh. Bad design there by avid. Looks like those will only work with trigger style shifters. that's quite ironic, as SRAM is megaphoning to all and sundry+dog about their new gripshifts. Ouch!
Big H* Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Who fitted and or sold you these Avid's? If it was your LBS and not a DIY job they should have advised you of the possibe problems. Unless you insisted on these brakes and levers I would suggest you take it back to them and insist that they rectify your problem. They are NOT only there to rake in the money, they are also the so called "experts"
Guest Omega Man Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Take a look at straitline. I've got them on my Avid codes and they are absolutely AMAZING to look at. They are milled out of Ali and come in a range of uber sexy colors. They are kaaaak expensive tho. I paid 1k for mine. I only got them cos my old levers were bent. And be careful that you are buying levers for the new Elixir. i think the lever design has changed. You don't want to go pay 1k for levers you can't use.
Capricorn Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 Omega: not sure that the hinge mechanisms on the 2012 versus prior model elixirs are different. The big change in lever design, is from 2010 to 2011/2012 codes. it's a fckup of note in my honest opinion: the lever reach adjust is IN the lever. jeez. now i cant get straitline replacements. unf'ingbelievable. W2G avid..
Guest Omega Man Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 now i cant get straitline replacements. unf'ingbelievable. W2G avid.. Unlucky. I'm going to be solving my Avid problems soon with a nice set of Hope V2's.
Guest Omega Man Posted February 25, 2012 Posted February 25, 2012 BTW I agree with eccentric here. If you bought them from a shop they should help you out with replacement brakes that are gripshift compatible.
Neg Posted February 25, 2012 Author Posted February 25, 2012 I bought a Anthem O. it came with XT drive train and these avid brakes. i have sold the XT and i put my old 3x9/11-34 drive train back on. but i had and use grip shifts. so when i tried to put them on that's when i noticed the problem.... i dont hold the bike shop responsible but i will contact them and see if they can help me out... maybe a swap with pay-in etc...
Skylark Posted February 26, 2012 Posted February 26, 2012 One finger braking is the ultimate.Feels wrong at first but once you used to it it is killer.As an earlier post mentioned - it allows more fingers on the grips where you need them. *One finger Braking FTW & it probably solves your problem*
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