New bike advice

[Wipeout2]

Hi, does anyone have an opinion on a MTB that I am just about to buy

 

Scott spark 29 Team for R15400

 

is it a good bike?

do you think it's a good price?

 

any opinion or help would be appreciated

[Wipeout2]

a couple of views!! any worthy opinions?

[Motard660]

What is the components on the bike?

[GhostRider2]

Looks like SLX with Elixir 1 brakes.

 

I would buy an almost new/second hand/demo or 2011 for the same money with better specs myself.

 

With 29ers being all the rage. Bargains abound for us 26" riders.

 

I bought a brand new carbon 26er with XT/SLX and Fulcrum Red Metals 3's and tubeless tires for R16k. It is a hardtail though.

 

http://www.bicycling.../spark-29-team/

 

 

Year: 2012 Category: MTB (All): MTB: Full Suspension: MTB: Full Suspension: Leisure Brand: Scott Model: Spark 29 Team Price: R16999.95 Frame Material: Alloy 6061 Double butted Hydroformed Tubes Fork: Rock Shock Recon Silver 29 RL - Solo Air 100mm Travel; Shock: DT Swiss M210 Wheelset: Alex XC-49 Disc Components: Shimano SLX/ Shimano SLX/ Shimano Deore 30spd/ Shimano FC-M522/ Avid Elixir 1

Edited May 3, 2012 by GhostRider2

[The Ghost]

Here's my 2c.

 

It is a nice bike and it will do just fine for some people.

Personally I would try and stretch to the 29 Elite because I don't like the spec of the team. The 29 Elite was on my short list when I bought in January, it was only squeezed out because I could get the full XT kit and 120mm travel on the Ghost and that was a big deal for me.

 

I love the geometry of the Scott... How much do they want for an Elite?

Have you tried negotiating at Cajees?

[scotty]

MTB review give it 4/5

 

http://www.mtbr.com/...46_7787crx.aspx

 

 

Scotts a tried and tested brand, Alex wheels for me would be an issue, particularly if you the wrong side of 90kg.

Edited May 3, 2012 by scotty

[TheV]

You can get the Spark 29er Elite for around R19k - call and haggle all the Cajees...

 

If you want great service and a nice LBS to buy it from at maybe a couple rands more then goto Cycle Tech in Kyalami and speak to greg or marco.

 

The elite 29er is best value for money, no question - it's mostly full XT with a couple SLX and Avid 7s for brakes....

 

Better to spend the 3 or 4k more now and save yourself the heartache of wanting a "29er" later....

Edited May 3, 2012 by TheV

[The Ghost]

You can get the Spark 29er Elite for around R19k - call and haggle all the Cajees...

 

If you want great service and a nice LBS to buy it from at maybe a couple rands more then goto Cycle Tech in Kyalami and speak to greg or marco.

 

The elite 29er is best value for money, no question - it's mostly full XT with a couple SLX and Avid 7s for brakes....

 

Better to spend the 3 or 4k more now and save yourself the heartache of wanting a "29er" later....

 

I totally agree.

[Wipeout2]

thanks

 

I intially wanted the elite, but there does not seem to be any stock around...end August maybe then it's 2013 (according to Cajees)

 

This deal for the team is from Cajees

 

The V, waht do you mean by wanting a 29er later... this is a 29er!

[Wipeout2]

Hi guys, specs for the spark team

Product name Bike Spark 29 Team Sizes S, M, L, XL Frame Spark Alloy 6061 custom butted, hydroformed tubes, tapered Headtube, replaceable derailleur hanger, 135mm, U-Mono Link, rear PM 160, BB height adjustable, 100mm rear travel Fork Rock Shox Recon Silver 29 RL Solo Air, Alloy Steerer, Motion Control Lockout, Rebound adjustable, 100 mm travel Headset Ritchey OE 1 1/8“, semi integrated 44/50mm Rear Derailleur Shimano SLX, RD-M663 SGS, Shadow Type, 30 Speed Front Derailleur Shimano SLX, FD-M660-10E, DM Shifters Shimano Deore, SL-M591-10, Rapidfire Plus, 2 way release, w/gear indicator Brake Levers Avid Elixir 1 Brakes Avid Elixir 1, 180/F and 160/R mm GS Rotor Crankset Shimano FC-M522, 42Ax32Ax24T BB-Set Shimano ES25 Octalink, 73-113mm Handlebar Scott Pilot T OS 31.8mm, T shape Flat, 680 mm, 9° bend Stem Scott Comp, Oversize 31.8mm, 1 1/8“, -6° angle Pedals Wellgo C-128 Seatpost Scott Comp zero offset, 31.6mm Seat Scott Racing Front Hub Scott Comp Disc IT Rear Hub Sram MTH 306 Disc IT Chain Shimano CN-HG54 Cassette Shimano CS-HG62-10, 11-36 T Spokes DT Swiss Champion Black 1.8mm Rims Alex XC-49 Disc, 32H, Eyelets Tires Schwalbe Rocket Ron, 29 x 2.25, 67EPI Kevlar Bead, Performance Serie Rear Shock DT Swiss M210, Air, ABS Spring, 165 x 38mm, Rebound adjustable, Lockout Remote System Scott Twinloc remote lever, front & rear lockout activate by one lever

[Wipeout2]

Specs for the Elite....quoted at R19K but ZERO stock

Product name Bike Spark 29 Elite Sizes S, M, L, XL Frame Spark Alloy 6061 custom butted, hydroformed tubes, tapered Headtube, replaceable derailleur hanger, 135mm, U-Mono Link, rear PM 160, BB height adjustable, 100mm rear travel Fork Rock Shox Reba 29 RL Air, Motion Control Lockout, tapered steerer, Rebound adjustable, 100mm travel Headset Ritchey Comp Plus Tapered 1.5“ - 1 1/8“, semi integrated 50 / 61mm Rear Derailleur Shimano XT, RD-M780 SGS, Shadow Type, 30 Speed Front Derailleur Shimano SLX, FD-M660-10E, DM Shifters Shimano SLX SL-M660-10, Rapidfire Plus, 2 way release, w/gear indicator Brake Levers Avid Elixir 5S Brakes Avid Elixir 5S, 180/F and 160/R mm HS1 Rotor Crankset Shimano XT, FC-M780, Hollowtech 2, 42Ax32Ax24A T BB-Set Shimano Cartridge, 73mm shell Handlebar Scott Hot Rod Tbar OS 31.8mm, T shape Flat, 680mm, 9° bend Stem Scott Comp, Oversize 31.8mm, 1 1/8“, -6° angle Pedals Shimano PD-M505, Clipless pedal Seatpost Scott Comp zero offset, 31.6mm Seat Scott Racing Front Hub Scott Comp Disc IT Rear Hub Shimano FH-M529 Disc IT Chain Shimano CN-HG54 Cassette Shimano CS-HG62-10, 11-36 T Spokes DT Swiss Champion Black 1.8mm Rims Alex XC-49 Disc, 32H, Eyelets Tires Schwalbe Rocket Ron, 29 x 2.25, 67EPI Kevlar Bead, Performance Serie Rear Shock DT Swiss M210, Air, ABS Spring, 165 x 38mm, Rebound adjustable, Lockout Remote System Scott Twinloc remote lever, front & rear lockout activate by one lever

[TheV]

thanks

 

I intially wanted the elite, but there does not seem to be any stock around...end August maybe then it's 2013 (according to Cajees)

 

This deal for the team is from Cajees

 

The V, waht do you mean by wanting a 29er later... this is a 29er!

 

Sorry - didn't look properly... still would suggest you get the elite... try Cycle Tech in midrand...

 

Shop Lg 2a. Kyalami Downs Shopping Centre. Kyalami Boulevard, Midrand. Phone: 011 466 9974 greg or marco will sort you out

Edited May 3, 2012 by TheV

[Wipeout2]

thanks V I will give them a call, here is another hopefully better format on the spec comp (is this really worth the additional just short of R4K)

 

 

did not work......but basically the question is, is this "better" equipment worth the additional ZAR's, which I suppose you already answered....but why...does it respond better...durable...etc

Edited May 3, 2012 by Wipeout2

[Wipeout2]

Scotty, what is the issue with the rims...I weight in at 102kg & I am already concerned about the larger diameter flex (as told by another bike shop who does not reccomend 29ers due to this issue, especially when taking tight corners at speed, he has gone back to 26)

 

jeez nothing is simple anymore, my scorpion BMX I had as a kid went through anything haha

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Scotty, what is the issue with the rims...I weight in at 102kg & I am already concerned about the larger diameter flex (as told by another bike shop who does not reccomend 29ers due to this issue, especially when taking tight corners at speed, he has gone back to 26)

 

jeez nothing is simple anymore, my scorpion BMX I had as a kid went through anything haha

 

Wipeout, that oke doesn't know what he's talking about. The tension would be provided by the spokes, and as long as the wheel was built properly, there shouldn't be an issue with strength vs a 26" wheel, especially with the tech improvements.

 

The guy himself is probably a muppet on the bike, and didn't try to get used to the different geo / wheelbase of the 9er, and therefore wrote it off because it didn't behave the way he wanted it to behave....

 

Alex rims are just soft though. I'm 105kg myself, and my Alex rims were not that great ito quality and strength. They warped & buckled easily, but were also most probaby badly built. They're also heavier than the average wheel, so that's another point against them. Nothing "worng" with them, but they're not in the same league as XT / Crossmax wheels...

 

EDIT: Built properly, a 29er wheel shouldn't be "weaker" than a 26er wheel. Especially since the majority of the strength comes from the spokes themselves, and how the wheels are built.

Edited May 3, 2012 by cptmayhem

[scotty]

Scotty, what is the issue with the rims...I weight in at 102kg & I am already concerned about the larger diameter flex (as told by another bike shop who does not reccomend 29ers due to this issue, especially when taking tight corners at speed, he has gone back to 26)

 

jeez nothing is simple anymore, my scorpion BMX I had as a kid went through anything haha

Alex wheels suck, i've had road and MTB and the wheels spent as much time in the shop as on my bike. The BS was spinning you BS, i have a 29 DS and while i find it slightly more clumsy on very technical routes it kicks &ss everywhere else .

 

I see you in Benoni, if i can suggest go to Finish Line in Glen Marais shopping center and speak to Clint or Arthur, they have a wide range of bikes including Merida and Silverback who both have comparable 29'ers.