TheV

nice looking bike, i'd buy one to give it a try although i don't think in its class (price,travel,carbon) its going to beat a SC or Yeti or or or? it should be a 30% less priced compared to big brands to make it a winner i.m.o

It looks a bit like a niner ??? http://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/J9RDO_Tang-1024x640.jpg top rocker very similar, lower pivot a bit different... nothing not seen before??? even the plus 5 not totally new?

Why, your comment makes no sense? Especially the climate bit? Better wheels, better stopping power, prob lighter, so many benefits

when I was a kid, we used to go on our daily training rides and after we would often meet up at our lbs, we talked crap with the owner/staff and checked out the workshop to see who in town was busy getting what upgrades, etc... remember always drooling over new builds, and new products on display... personally, these shops just don't do it for me... there is something really special about building a bike from scratch... choosing components based on your preference and also your budget, etc.... except for the S-works bikes, you are always short changed with budget/low end components mixed into their stock builds, and your spaz bike has NOTHING special because they are all exactly the same being pumped off the sausage factory line... these concept/elite stores just don't do it for me....

Maybe try the new guys who opened at the spruit across from Fratellis?

I don't get it... it's just a plain old Giant after all. What's so special about it, the affordable price v.s spec. v.s performance.... I've never had any attraction to a Giant...

Bud, brake hose vibrating on frame is not the same as Avid turkey wobble. And the wobble also means fade, performance, and other related issues, it's not just the sound.... Avid turkey wobble is a perfect storm of heat, fluid, pad and rotor combination. You do not get that same noise on a Shimano setup. And if you run ICE-TECH Rotors with XT / XTR brakes, you don't have to worry about countless bleeding, adjustments, fade, rotors, etc... I actually also really enjoy Formula brakes... and as per Martin, I will try out some SRAM Guide's soon, I just can't imagine that I need "more" performance when the benchmark is XT/XTR/ICE-TECH. AVID/SRAM rotors IMHO has also really been *** in the past. Again, I'm not comparing BRAND A vs. BRAND B, thats just silly, I am comparing XT/XTR/ICETECH against the common "Avid Brakeset".

BMC bike's are awe awesome, especially for Road.

"Only thing in the middle of the road is a white line and/or roadkill"

Also, while I'm not making any fans or friends in here.... 22kmh??? on a downhill is the test? You don't need brakes at that speed...

Sorry buddy, I'm not a SRAM basher. I do/have owned almost every brand/series of both SRAM and Shimano high end groupsets. And actually as far as the drive train goes, I prefer SRAM. When it comes to brakes, you don't get better all round stopping power, performance, reliability than Shimano. If you seriously think SRAM brakes are better then I would Love to hear your reasons and experience on this topic? The bike shop saw him coming when they suggested trail brakes on his epic. They didn't even fit the correct Rotors for his weight, 160mm in the front on quad piston trailbrakes and a 90kg rider? You must be kidding right?

Makes sense... It's probably all (or most expensive) brakes the spez dealer had in stock. They saw you coming bud.

Sorry you got hurt bud, the surgery will fix you up better than ever. I didn't come for about two years straight, then crashed 3 times in 3 consecutive rides. mojo, karma, luck, fate... who knows!????

welcome to the hub. if the pistons were sticky and you cleaned and lubed them, you might have to bleed again/or properly this time.

Hi B20 I'm just not able to help myself, I really tried Happy to hear you like your SRAM XO Trails, however I'm sorry to inform you that they are NOT that amazing, at least not when you compare them to SHIMANO XT(XTR), especially when you include Ice-Tech Rotors into the equation. You also mention you had reliability issues with the Formula's, don't expect the Avid's to be bulletproof or without “turkey gobble”. Lastly, don't know why you put "trail"quad-piston brakes on an Epic, it's just a bit silly.