Wannabe Posted November 26, 2012 Share Don't you guys realise how good we have it down here? Regular races, all within a 100km return trip, with the exception of one or two. Very reasonable Entry fees (races up North cost in the region of R170.00 and up, and then there is major traveling involved, remember you have to travel to register / collect your race entries.) Here you get your Annual PPA number, you enter Online, and then you just rock up at a race and ride. Minimal hassles.You pay a nominal fee, and then you don't need to belong to a Club. Up North you have to belong to a Club, with all the costs involved, and then you must still pay an Annual fee to CSA, who does very little to nothing for the everyday cyclist. Complaining with a brown bread under the arm, and a slice of cake in the hand. Edited November 26, 2012 by Wannabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icycling Posted November 26, 2012 Share Don't you guys realise how good we have it down here? Regular races, all within a 100km return trip, with the exception of one or two. Very reasonable Entry fees (races up North cost in the region of R170.00 and up, and then there is major traveling involved, remember you have to travel to register / collect your race entries.) Here you get your Annual PPA number, you enter Online, and then you just rock up at a race and ride. Minimal hassles.You pay a nominal fee, and then you don't need to belong to a Club. Up North you have to belong to a Club, with all the costs involved, and then you must still pay an Annual fee to CSA, who does very little to nothing for the everyday cyclist. Complaining with a brown bread under the arm, and a slice of cake in the hand. But we can and should keep getting good! WP cyclist are very lucky because of a few hard men in the 90ties who managed to trade 50% of the ownership of the Cape Argus Pick 'n Pay Cycle with Rotary for instead of just 10% of (if I recall correctly) entry for 50% of the profit of this event. This is a road cycling event which PPA is the cycling beneficiary off - over the past about 10 years PPA has not been able to spend all the money they have got from this event (well they could have if spent more if they kept events like the Giro del Capo going) and just been investing (wisely), but not it's time (hopefully not to late) to invest in road cycle. We getting to the possible point where the statement don't bit he hand that feeds you may come into play. How successful will the ACT really be if it the only road fun ride left? The other part of PPA which has been successful is the fact we PPA has a calendar - but if this calendar is not been filled - some other private promoter will come in and put on events and yes the entry will by 2 to 3 times higher - and we the WP cyclist will just have to suck it up because they will be the only road event - PPA really do need to consider funding road funride / races next summer season! Just because organizer are based in certain areas and have venue in these areas and now these venue are not suitable due to road permission - PPA is quite capable of filling the calendar with other road event in other areas - whether they put them on themselves or partner with other organizers! This we a the road cycling members should be "demanding" (I hate using that word) they do. We as the road riders should not be short changed! It still surprises me that PPA organizers fee for road riding is twice that of MTB event yet all event have some subsidy from PPA though the ACT a road event. Wannabe and pbp2007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydude Posted November 26, 2012 Share What am I training for exactly? At this rate I am not renewing my PPA membership, will sell my Zipps and put the money towards mtb. What a ******* joke. Dibbs on your zipps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frail4Life Posted November 26, 2012 Share When is PPA going to wake up?Never! They have their little list of things to do.Hard work like think up New routes and planning with local Funride Org is not on their list. Every year new races appear and disappear.The PPA have such a Large membership base and yet struggle to satisfy any one form of cyclist,Road, Mtb or Xc. There is no point in PPA when there is no more Events! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted November 26, 2012 Share Dibbs on your zipps... :-DThey'll roll fast at altitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavrick Posted November 26, 2012 Share How about some Red Hill lap racing? This has been done in the past. Andrew Wheeldon does it every year with minimal funds through his BEN Bikes NGO. Very little traffic to contend with down there. Yep like the Penguin Ride of before , Start Simonstown, 2 x Redhill gives you 50Km. So start in Fish Hoek. VroomSL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaStig Posted November 26, 2012 Share Does anyone know if there is an option to get membership fees refunded? I paid that fee on the understanding that I would be getting the same cycling in return as they have provided for many years. I have not been to the Northern Suburbs rides this year and don't intend on going in summer either so will be getting zero value from my membership by the sound of it. I live a few hundred metres from the regular starting venues in the South and hence really enjoy those races, but can't spend a fortune travelling to and entering the races in the North. Sounds like the only option is a 50km sprint which probably isn't worth R100+ entry fee.Exactly what I was thinking. So I forked out a good few ZARs for a minimal discount on the Burger, ACT and 99er entries??? I want my PPA membership refunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icycling Posted November 26, 2012 Share Exactly what I was thinking. So I forked out a good few ZARs for a minimal discount on the Burger, ACT and 99er entries??? I want my PPA membership refunded. Then vote! https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/122825-ppa-how-much-funding-should-the-association-retain-annually-ie-not-spend-on-cycling/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted November 27, 2012 Share Would love to ride 3 x 150 km stage race through Ceres, Paternoster, Barrydale, etc!C'mon, PPA. You can't even hang onto a 80km flat race along the coast 1 day event, never mine 3 days with some serious climbs at 150km per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted November 27, 2012 Share You can't even hang onto a 80km flat race along the coast 1 day event, never mine 3 days with some serious climbs at 150km per day. I think you're confused, Colonel. Thinking you're my coach. Lighten up, man. Edited November 28, 2012 by Puncheur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted November 27, 2012 Share @Colonel, I still bought a black Fizik Arione saddle from you, years ago...If it's you? Hi-jack off. Edited November 27, 2012 by Puncheur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountin Goat Posted November 27, 2012 Share how do you guys think this will impact the Summer League ?? Less races / No league / new events ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubehunter Posted November 27, 2012 Share You can't even hang onto a 80km flat race along the coast 1 day event, never mine 3 days with some serious climbs at 150km per day. Haha JW! In Arnie voice..... "I'll be back..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted November 27, 2012 Share how do you guys think this will impact the Summer League ?? Less races / No league / new events ?? Million dollar question, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbp2007 Posted November 27, 2012 Share I understand that one ride is appealing the Southern Suburbs ban... as far as I know, there is just our ride confirmed in this area between now and the Argus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cippo Posted November 27, 2012 Share From PPA newsletter, provisional calendar for Summer 2013, Summer 2013 events We are in the process of finalising the details for the Summer 2013 events – amongst others, the road works in the southern suburbs (Fish Hoek area) has meant that no events can go over Boyes Drive, Main Road around Kalk Bay, or Ou Kaapse Weg. As you can imagine, this has posed quite a challenge to the organisers. However, alternative solutions have been found, as follows: JANUARY 2013Sun 6 Jan: Journey for Sight. New venue and route from Fish Hoek Sat 12 Jan: Potential new MTB trail opening in the Greyton area – watch this space Sun 20 Jan: Cyclelab funride – route and venue to be confirmed, but possibly in the Boland area Sun 27 Jan: Bouckaert-Soenen league, road and MTB funride. Usual route and venue in Paarl FEBRUARY 2013 Sat 2 Feb: Franschhoek Lion Porcupine MTB Challenge, Franschhoek Sun 3 Feb: Tour de PPA. New route and venue, Durbanville Sat 9 Feb: 99er Cycle Tour, Durbanville Sun 17 Feb: Medallion Tour de Stellenbosch. Usual route and venue, Stellenbosch Sat 23 Feb: Wellington Lions MTB (MTB only) Sun 24 Feb: to be confirmed – Bay City Cycle Tour MARCH 2013 Sat 2 March: Cape Argus Pick n Pay MTB Sun 3 March: Cape Argus Pick n Pay MTB Sun 10 March: Cape Argus Pick n Pay Cycle Tour Sat 16 March: PPA Wacky Wheels Overnight Fun tour Sun 17 March: PPA Wacky Wheels Overnight Fun tour Information will be uploaded to the calendar section of this website as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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