carbon29er Posted November 23, 2012 Share I really believe it's PPA job to promote all cycling and that includes the Southern Suburbs fun rides. I ahve been hearing stories of lack of funding as a reason why the SS rides are no more, it costs R30k for traffic control etc. So WHAT? PPA and Cycle Trust make millions from the World Championship Fun Ride every year,plough some of that back into what must some of the best amateur fun ride/racing in the world around the Point. That's how you promote cycling, let people ride in safe and orgnised routes on roads with beautiful scenery and great climbs. Lucky Luke. 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon29er Posted November 23, 2012 Share I do not see anyone else trying to organize road races and if we shun the PPA and they stop organizing the races how many would be left on the calendar. If PPA stop organising races they cease to have meaning? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted November 23, 2012 Share I do not see anyone else trying to organize road races and if we shun the PPA and they stop organizing the races how many would be left on the calendar. So what you're saying here is that PPA are the only service provider so we must just take what we're given and get on with it? Never mind that they are sitting on our money whilst our races get cancelled? At the very minimum I'd like some open and honest communication from them regarding the funds they have in reserve and what they intend to do with them. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsoran Posted November 23, 2012 Share If PPA stop organising races they cease to have meaning? From some posts here that has already happened. carbon29er 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted November 23, 2012 Share safe and orgnised routes on roads with beautiful scenery and great climbs. How about some Red Hill lap racing? This has been done in the past. Andrew Wheeldon does it every year with minimal funds through his BEN Bikes NGO. Very little traffic to contend with down there. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted November 23, 2012 Share How about some Red Hill lap racing? This has been done in the past. Andrew Wheeldon does it every year with minimal funds through his BEN Bikes NGO. Very little traffic to contend with down there. Sounds awesome.I need gradient to race after a tough Spring. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsoran Posted November 23, 2012 Share So what you're saying here is that PPA are the only service provider so we must just take what we're given and get on with it? Never mind that they are sitting on our money whilst our races get cancelled? At the very minimum I'd like some open and honest communication from them regarding the funds they have in reserve and what they intend to do with them. As I said in my earlier post I agree about the reserve funds and the need to use it for the good of cycling and not have it sit and gather dust. That said at the moment yes they are the only providers. Until someone else comes along with the will and the sponsorship we need to suck it up. I am not saying do not make legitimate complaints but slating them for something that is beyond there control is a wee bit harsh. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted November 23, 2012 Share As I said in my earlier post I agree about the reserve funds and the need to use it for the good of cycling and not have it sit and gather dust. That said at the moment yes they are the only providers. Until someone else comes along with the will and the sponsorship we need to suck it up. I am not saying do not make legitimate complaints but slating them for something that is beyond there control is a wee bit harsh. It's not harsh when they refuse to address the issue. They're also not the only outfit capable of putting on races. If I didn't ride for a road team I would have no issue whatsoever cancelling my membership and hitting the mountain every chance I get. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsoran Posted November 23, 2012 Share It's not harsh when they refuse to address the issue. They're also not the only outfit capable of putting on races. If I didn't ride for a road team I would have no issue whatsoever cancelling my membership and hitting the mountain every chance I get. Fair enough. They might not be the only ones capable but from where I am sitting they are one of the only ones actually setting races up.. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted November 23, 2012 Share Seems like no amount of money thrown at the City Of Cape Town could've changed the outcome. ? Edited November 23, 2012 by Puncheur Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted November 23, 2012 Share Fair enough. They might not be the only ones capable but from where I am sitting they are one of the only ones actually setting races up.. The clincher for me is that they are the ones with the funds - our money - available to do it. Others like Cyclelab - will run it as a business, Hendrik Lemmer - small budget, WPCA - also lack resources - are capable of putting on events and have done so in the past. Anyways, like I say, I'll wait to see what happens when the summer league races are announced. I'm not getting up at 3.30 every weekend to race in the Boland, seriously I'm over it. I look forward to my local events every year and when they are gone so is my interest in belonging to PPA. babse 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted November 23, 2012 Share <br /><br />Anyways, like I say, I'll wait to see what happens when the summer league races are announced. I'm not getting up at 3.30 every weekend to race in the Boland, seriously I'm over it. I look forward to my local events every year and when they are gone so is my interest in belonging to PPA.<br /><br />I'm with you on this one, probably one of the main reasons i didn't race spring. Seems i can start pimping my commuter mtb. Fun times ahead.<br /><br />As for PPA doubt I'll be giving them my money next year.<br /><br />There's that saying from Karl Platt, @babse how does it go, ...... .mtbing is a lifestyle<br /> Edited November 23, 2012 by Meezo Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Ride Posted November 23, 2012 Share One of the reasons why I am no longer a member of the PPA. Hardly any races in the Southern Suburbs. Often the races also are not very safe. Crossing a railway with a small mat while the bunch is ten times wider and guess what happens, a crash. I ride for fun now days. Might not be as fast as I used to be but I'm saving a load of money and get to look after my own safety which I honestly don't think the PPA does. Edited November 23, 2012 by Let's Ride Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luke. Posted November 23, 2012 Share Guys, if you have not yet done so, please do as Peter suggests and vote here : https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/122825-ppa-how-much-funding-should-the-association-retain-annually-ie-not-spend-on-cycling/ Enough votes and we can put the numbers in front of PPA and start getting some answers. alsoran 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezo Posted November 23, 2012 Share One of the reasons why I am no longer a member of the PPA. Hardly any races in the Southern Suburbs. Often the races also are not very safe. Crossing a railway with a small mat while the bunch is ten times wider and guess what happens, a crash. I ride for fun now days. Might not be as fast as I used to be but I'm saving a load of money and get to look after my own safety which I honestly don't think the PPA does. Mtb races too have railway crossing. But thats when the tokai chicken run skills prevail. Bek firsss in sond! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Ride Posted November 23, 2012 Share Mtb races too have railway crossing. But thats when the tokai chicken run skills prevail. Bek firsss in sond! Bigger wheels and lower speeds. Thin wheels and crossing the railway not at the right angle at high speeds... Not so lekker. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/123833-no-events-to-take-place-on-ou-kaapse-boys-in-summer/page/2/#findComment-1864348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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