29 Inch wheels MTB

[AfricaMike]

Eben Venter of West Rand Cycles (011)955-4342 was kind enough to lend me his Gary Fisher HiFi Carbon Pro for a recent Epic training camp in Dullstroom.  i have been blessed to have owned some magnificent bikes over the last few years - Cannondale, Specialized, Ventana, etc.  The Gary Fisher HiFi is simply astonishing.  The bike is a peice of art in every department.  Eben's bike was a 26'er - I think it would be even better with 29'er hoops.  Try take it for a test ride, you won't be sorry.

[AndreZA]

Eben Venter of West Rand Cycles (011)955-4342 was kind enough to lend me his Gary Fisher HiFi Carbon Pro for a recent Epic training camp in Dullstroom.

 

yip, Eben is a good guy. Will give you his shirt off his back if it means keeping his customers happy.

 

 

[MintSauce]

I thought it was only me feeling like I am going over the handlebars all the time. Even if it helps a little bit it would be great. It will surely bring down my center of gravity as well' date=' which in turn will help while cornering, any thoughts? 

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The bikes feel a lot more stable when cornering. There's also slightly more traction (cornering, braking and climbing) because of the larger contact patch on the ground.

 

They also maintain momentum better. I don't think it's been proven as fact, but it's been claimed/estimated that they require as much as 8-10% less energy to maintain the same speed.

 

Of course acceleration is marginally slower, but I could barely tell the difference when riding 26 & 29er versions of the exact same bike.

 

If the budget allows, I'd strongly recommend you look at the Niner. I've ridden a few 29ers....2x full-suss being a Gary Fisher Hi-Fi and a Titus Racer X and a Niner EMD9 hardtail.

 

The Niner is the only one of the 3 that steered like a 26er. It felt very nimble. The Titus was close but just felt slightly sluggish in tight singletrack. The Fisher felt a bit weird....don't know if it was setup or what. The Fisher and Titus belong to the same owner so I can only therefor blame the geometry of the bike?

 

Tried another friend's Small HiFi(the other was large) and that felt much better so it's possible that the geo just doesn't do well in a large. Dunno...don't wanna be unfair to the Fisher, cos it was just after it had been built up, so maye with some adjustment it would get better.

 

They have had demo models cruising the country so try and hook one up.

 

My honest opinion....if I was in the market for another bike now, I would buy the Niner based on the feel of the HT I rode and the fact that every man and his dog who has thrown a leg over it says it's the best FS 29er....period

 

My 0.02c

 

 

 

MintSauce2008-03-05 04:47:32

[Haga]

Hey Try Boy

I just recently acquired the cheaper version Gary Fisher X-Caliber, and have been so impressed with it.  That i am now going to sell both my Ellsworth Moment & Giant Anthem 26'. To get a Niner RIP.

 

At 6'3' its the first time i have ever been on a bike that i didnt feel to big for. As some folk have mentioned i havent felt any adverse effect in the technical sections, and on the climbs if ou can maintain decent momentum its really not that bad.

 

If your not sure organise a test ride, at your size gaurantee your hooked.

 

Good luck

 

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[Newboy]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I will go and have a look at the Niner and the GF and test ride them if possible. I must admit it would be nice to be on a bike that does not feel to small.

[steven]

Coolheat are the distributors for NIner, check our website www.coolheat.co.za and click on NIner

 

rgds sm

[steven]

MORNINGSIDE CYCLES HAVE A FEW BUILT UP AND READY TO RACE,

 

[Newboy]

MORNINGSIDE CYCLES HAVE A FEW BUILT UP AND READY TO RACE' date='

 

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Steven I assume you are from Morningside. How are the RIP 9's specced? Components and wheels?

[AndreZA]

MORNINGSIDE CYCLES HAVE A FEW BUILT UP AND READY TO RACE' date='

 

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Steven I assume you are from Morningside. How are the RIP 9's specced? Components and wheels?

 

No, Steven is from Coolheat.

 

 

[Newboy]

So got it down to 1 of 3 bikes:

 

1. Niner Rip 9

2. Gary Fisher HiFi Pro 29 or

3. Ellsworth Advance.

 

Weighing strongly toward the Niner, value for money wise it will be the best option. The Ellsworth seems to be the best bike but a lot more expensive.

 

Any thoughts?

[Kiwi]

Supersize Me! 29er Pros And Cons

Supersize Me! By Dan Joyce, What Mountain Bike http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.za/resources/1/PlanetX/Review%20Pictures/On%20One/WMB76_bt_29_498_a3s-280-80.jpgWhat's the big idea with 29in wheels on mountain bikes? Dan Joyce explains Why size does matter Big wheels are big news. After a slow-burn start, 29ers - mountain bikes with now seem to be on every other stand at bike shows. It's not a sudden freaky-bike fad. Bikes with bigger wheels have simply arrived. Know this: 26in is not mountain biking's magic number. When the pioneers were building clunkers, the bikes happened to have 26in wheels. That, and the lack of suitable tyres for bigger rims back then, is why we're on 26in wheels today. In a different world it could have been 700C, the 27in diameter road standard that becomes 28.5in - let's call it 29in! - when you put a mountain bike tyre on it. Or even 650B, which is between 26in and 700C. Big wheels good Bigger wheels roll better, even on smooth tarmac, and better still on rough surfaces. A bump hits a larger wheel at a more acute angle so the bigger wheel climbs more easily, converting less forward momentum into upward momentum. Small bumps feel smaller and it takes a big bump to balk the wheel. Over small bumps, a 29er is more comfortable and carries its speed better. It's like the smoother flow you get riding with suspension versus riding rigid, or with fatter tyres. On climbs, the bigger wheel climbs over roots and rocks rather than being knocked off line. A bigger wheel is also better on soft surfaces like mud and sand. It doesn't sink in as much so you're not having to churn through as deep a rut to keep going. And the 29er's longer contact patch gives it better traction too, as more tread blocks engage with the surface. Big wheels bad A big wheel is heavier because there's more of it - more rim, more tyre, longer spokes. This makes bigger wheels marginally harder to accelerate. A heavier wheel has more inertia, slowing down steering response. A larger wheel also increases trail - the distance between the front wheel's contact patch on the ground and a line to the ground through the bike's steering axis. Trail is a crucial component of bicycle steering. More trail gives a steadier bike with greater tendency to go in a straight line; less trail gives a bike with a more immediate steering response. You can change trail by altering the head angle (steeper = less trail, shallower = more trail) and/or changing the fork offset (less offset = more trail, more offset = less trail). That's what current 29ers do to stop them handling like barges. Smaller wheels are stronger than large ones - by about 10 per cent for a 26in wheel over a 29er. They're laterally stiffer too, because of the shorter spokes. You can overcome these differences by having 36 spokes instead of 32, by using a tougher rim, or by using an oversized bolt-through axle. Function and form Sticking 29er wheels in a 26in-wheel frame would jack you up in the air another inch and a half. To avoid this, 29ers drop the bottom bracket height relative to the wheel axles, so both it and the saddle are at the same height as on a 26er. To prevent the handlebar being 3in higher, 29ers use a flat or low-rise bar and a shorter head tube. At the back end, the chain-stay brace may be omitted to tuck the back wheel in closer and stop the wheelbase from getting to long. At the front end, especially on smaller frames, manufacturers need to avoid toe-overlap, which is where your leading foot can hit the tyre during a turn. Just as 24in wheels are a better fit for smaller children than 26in - due to stand-over, steering and toe-overlap issues - so 26in wheels are a better fit for smaller adults. How small? If you can't fit a small-sized 29er frame - 16in, about 5ft 7in - take that as your cue. The taller you are, the fewer reasons there are not to use a 29er. The proportions will look and more importantly feel right. Make mine 29 Current 29ers best suit anywhere where there's plenty of cycling in your biking, because you'll go slightly faster or further for the same effort. They're great for trail centres too, but if freeriding, dirt jumping or trials riding are your bag, stick with 26in wheels. For racing, it can only be a matter of time before 29ers make a big impact in cross-country and enduro events. For general use, it's ultimately down to fashion. But just don't knock 'em until you've had a proper ride on one. Have you got that in large? Choice isn't what it is in 26in components, but it's improving. Wheels: 700C is not new. Any robust touring bike rim will be fine for a 29er, especially if it's 'suitable for tandems'. A wide rim - internal width 19mm or more - better suits fat 29er tyres. Tyres: Pick from Kenda Nevegal, Schwalbe Little Albert, Bontrager Jones ACX, Panaracer Rampage, WTB ExiWolf, Maxxis Ignitor, Continental Vapor, Halo Choirmaster. And that's just for starters. Inner tubes: Tubes will stretch a bit. A 26in inner tube will fit in a 29er tyre. Forks: Most are short travel, as you don't need as much on a big wheel and it's harder to fit it in without jacking your bars. Choose from: RockShox Reba Race, White Brothers Fluid or Magic, Pace RC29 S100 or S80, Fox F29 RLC, or Maverick SC32 or use SUB Anti-Drive. Drivetrain: The bigger wheel makes every gear ratio about 10 percent higher. Look for bigger rear sprockets - up to 34T.

[TitusTi]

Hey TryBoy, I have a Titus 29'er and a GF HiFi 29'er, I'm 6'3, the design works, it works really, really well!

[Newboy]

TitusTi. Thanks. I'm also quite tall (1.88) this is my main reason for looking at the 29 er's. I have not seen the Titus. Is it a full susser? What specs do you have on the bikes? What do you think of the GF? Any recommendation?

[TitusTi]

The Titus is awesome! The Fisher is also awesome but in a different way, it's simpler.

Got a Fox F29 on the Fisher and a Reba Race 29 on the Titus, the Fox is winning at the moment.

The important thing is the wheels, they have to be light and strong, also try get the Spesh Captain tyres or the new Bontrager Dry X's.

Both bikes are running flat wide bars.

 

[GoLefty!!]

The Fisher is really fantastic,. I had oen forweekend last year.

I'm only 171cm and it felt great.

I will definately consider the Fisher in future.

 

Also check the gearing. A 32T sprocket feels under geared.

[TitusTi]

Yeah, you really, really need the 34 at the back, the cool thing for me is that the granny ring is now actually a validly useable chainring, on my old clown bike I never used the thing. Maybe I was just younger and dumber, don't think so though, I'm still pretty dumb!