love2fly Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 I know there are similar threads but thought this may be of some interest...... OK, some context.....Been road cycling on and off (mostly on) since 1999.....In most races I find the last 15km are really tough due to having gone probably too often into my red zone for much of the distance (I weigh around 110kg thus hills are hard work).Normally do around 4:20 or so for 94.7 and Argus, but best is around 3:22 and 3:45 for each in my younger days. Due to battling the last few km and feeling hungry for something savoury and not sweet after each race I have been on a nutritional quest for at least 10 years.........I always drink a good juice, ie Cytomax, USN, eat bananas and gel, energy bars etc, not too much or too often......... I have now gone back to work and can only ride on road on weekends and do 2 x 30 min spin sessions at home in the week to keep something up. The reason for this thread is that the above race and training rides have always been done on a breakfast of Jungle Oats, honey, milk 90 mins or so before..This weekend we had no electricity Saturday morning and I thus couldn't make breakfast and started the ride with an energy bar and later a gel, then another bar etc....Now the exciting bit....my planned 30km ride without breakfast turned into a 86km good ride around the Cradle and I just got better as the ride progressed so much so I could do some sprints near the end....Did a shorter but much faster ride the next day too....and could have gone on a lot further.... I must add that around 4 weeks ago I was doing some fasted low intensity rides to try to burn fat.....therefore is this due to fat burning on the ride fuelling my energy stores or due to better blood sugar as I am not still trying to digest my breakfast?My vote would be in favour of better blood sugar.......
love2fly Posted November 7, 2016 Author Posted November 7, 2016 Probably unrelatedWas going to add that for the preceeding 3 weeks riding on breakfast I have been going a bit backwards compared to when I was able to ride midweek also.....
bikebloke Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 theres a lot of good to be derived from starved training .. however "a good juice, ie Cytomax, USN, eat bananas and gel, energy bars "etc (sugar sugar etc etc) "started the ride with an energy bar and later a gel, then another bar" etc doesn't equate to a starved ride its just sugar sugar etc so you where digesting something ............sugar(no wonder you went well for a while you where like the energizer bunny) and that's not helping your blood insulin at all . starved means starved (like from 6 the evening before and only water ) not sugar fueled only
Pulse Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 Simple carbs does not cause a glucose/insulin spike while exercising
love2fly Posted November 9, 2016 Author Posted November 9, 2016 Simple carbs does not cause a glucose/insulin spike while exercisingCould not agree more.....
Pulse Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 keep telling yourselves its ok Look at the evidence. LOADS of research on the topic. During exercise you predominantly do not use insulin as transporter
love2fly Posted November 9, 2016 Author Posted November 9, 2016 Look at the evidence. LOADS of research on the topic. During exercise you predominantly do not use insulin as transporter100% agreed. Prof Jeroen (spelling?) has a lot to say on that sun=bject.
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