Saint Pedal Bearings

[AlanD]

All,

 

I serviced thw one side of my Saint pedal the other day and it went well, pretty easy.

 

Had all the bearings accounted for and was super careful as they tiny, even counted them when putting them back in. Closed up the pedal amd off i went.

 

Later that day, my wife sees what looks like a bearing on the table and asks me what is this, my heart sinks, i take the bearing from her hand, it falls, my heart breaks and jaw drops as it bounces out of site.

 

Spent the last hour trying to find it but no luck....FFS!!!

 

Any idea where i can get such tiny little things?

[JXV]

Get spares from any other SPD pedal .... they pretty much all use the same size balls.

 

Or order from your LBS. According to the part number they apparently come in packs of 64 but I dunno if local agents import them.

 

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[AlanD]

Thanks. I have no other spd pedals. Maybe I will search the classifieds for a cheap pair

[Skylark]

One short bearing shouldn't make a huge diff(sent people mentioning leaving one ball out to stop some noise they can potentially make) but with the Saint cartridge I'd never strip it completely, if needs be clean the cartridge as a unit(and the inside of the pedal body) with paraffin if there is bad contamination, let dry and then fill the pedal body half with grease insert cartridge and the new grease forces out all the old grease/cleans out what's left in the cartridge(if you cleaned it with paraffin) and replaces it with fresh grease. Unless the dirt contamination was really bad I'd just fill the pedal body half with grease and let the new grease clean out the cartridge at each service.

 

Any bike shop should give you one bearing without charge, they generally cost less than a R1 each loose ball and chances are they have hundreds of old Shimano sized balls in a bottle somewhere.

 

But I'm glad this thread was started as I recently got some Saints and was wondering do you have to remove the axle dust seal at the end of the cartridge before unloosening the cartridge lock nut?

 

I first tried leaving it in but it looks like the seal gets pinched as the lock nut bears up against the axle to pull the cartridge out. I didn't chance it so I removed the seal but it's tricky to remove and would be much easier if I could just leave it in.

[AlanD]

I thought the same regarding one missing bearing won't make too much diffidence but if I could get one then it's better.

 

I removed the axle, unscrewed the lock nuts, took it part so that I could get to the top and bottom bearings, removed everything but the seal, just left it on.

 

Took all the bearings out, cleaned them and all the parts, greased and put it all back together, bar one bearing...lol.

 

The seal does look like it gets pinched up against the lock nut but I checked the other side (not serviced) and it looked the same ????

[AlanD]

Found it      :

 

[Skylark]

Found it :

 

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YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!

 

hahahahaha, we've all been there, the painful man hours scanning the floor and under ever piece of furniture/object in a 20m radius of the suspected location of foolishness. The worst is when after all that looking you find it on the workbench under the toolbox or similar

[BaGearA]

YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!

 

hahahahaha, we've all been there, the painful man hours scanning the floor and under ever piece of furniture/object in a 20m radius of the suspected location of foolishness. The worst is when after all that looking you find it on the workbench under the toolbox or similar

This is why I painted our garage floor white

[AlanD]

YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!

 

hahahahaha, we've all been there, the painful man hours scanning the floor and under ever piece of furniture/object in a 20m radius of the suspected location of foolishness. The worst is when after all that looking you find it on the workbench under the toolbox or similar

While face down on the floor, scanning it at the lowest possible level, my eye caught it, suddently this overwhelming sens of serenity filled my body at the site if its magnificent glimmer. I didn't react immediately, slowly i crawled to it to cup it gently in my palm...lol

[Skylark]

That moment of bliss, especially if it's a impossible to source part and losing it renders the item toast

[Frank.Hutt]

Exploded view for future and when you do the other pedal.EV-PD-MX80-3390A.pdf

[Skylark]

Exploded view for future and when you do the other pedal.EV-PD-MX80-3390A.pdf

The key is don't take the cartridge apart, clean it but unless I'm not seeing something (or you want to rebuild/replace the bearings) stripping it is pointless?

[AlanD]

I very much doubt that by filling the pedal and then putting the axle back without cleaning the bearings and the cartridge that the new grease will push out all the old grease sitting in the cartridge.

 

Theres really nit much room for the grease to get into as the bearinf are faily well hidden, especially the bottom set of bearings.

[Skylark]

I very much doubt that by filling the pedal and then putting the axle back without cleaning the bearings and the cartridge that the new grease will push out all the old grease sitting in the cartridge.

 

Theres really nit much room for the grease to get into as the bearinf are faily well hidden, especially the bottom set of bearings.

I thought the same thing, I saw a guy on YouTube doing it with Saint pedals and I've heard of that greasing technique being a tried and tested method in other bearing situations, even industrial applications. It's hydraulic pressure, the grease gets slowly but surely forced through even the smallest gap, Santa Cruz has something similar with their frame pivot bearings and factory supplied grease gun.

 

I tried on mine, filled the pedal body half with grease, the factory grease is white and as I tightened the cartridge the grease squeezed out of the gap between the axle and lock nut(where the rubber seal is) and slowly went from white to blue(Yamalube waterproof grease) as the new grease pushed out the old.

 

If things are noticeably dirty I'd definitely clean everything in paraffin before putting fresh grease in but I don't see the need to strip unless to rebuild with new spares.

[AlanD]

I thought the same thing, I saw a guy on YouTube doing it with Saint pedals and I've heard of that greasing technique being a tried and tested method in other bearing situations, even industrial applications. It's hydraulic pressure, the grease gets slowly but surely forced through even the smallest gap, Santa Cruz has something similar with their frame pivot bearings and factory supplied grease gun.

 

I tried on mine, filled the pedal body half with grease, the factory grease is white and as I tightened the cartridge the grease squeezed out of the gap between the axle and lock nut(where the rubber seal is) and slowly went from white to blue(Yamalube waterproof grease) as the new grease pushed out the old.

 

If things are noticeably dirty I'd definitely clean everything in paraffin before putting fresh grease in but I don't see the need to strip unless to rebuild with new spares.

Still dubious of this method being able to push out all of the old grease around all the bearings and the slots they sit in.

 

Maybe i will try this method on the other pedal. It sure will eliminate loosing a bearing..lol..i guess you will also use more grease by half filling the pedal.

[Skylark]

A finger scoop is about how much grease you need.

Did you find your Saints have a small amount of axle play even new out the box?