Epic Evo Comp vs Epic Comp

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Great choice

... if expensive pivot replacements is your bag yearly...

[Mr. G]

... if expensive pivot replacements is your bag yearly...

 

 

Wow, how fat are you?

[Bbbbbbbb]

Wow, how fat are you?

76 kg, and 186 tall ..yet after less than a year a full scott pivot replacement was needed.

 

Scott rep agreed

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

76 kg, and 186 tall ..yet after less than a year a full scott pivot replacement was needed.

 

Scott rep agreed

That's hardly out of the ordinary though. Think I've done my giant reign 3 or 4 times since purchase in 2015

[CJ Van]

How many of you actually had a look at the geo of the Epic Evo?  It is basically the normal Epic frame with a 120mm fork and dropper post.  Same handle bar width, same stem length, same everything.  The 20mm more travel give you a better HA, slacker by 1 degree but that also gives you a slacker seat tube angle by 1 degree.  The increase in travel also reduces the reach of the bike and increase the BB height.  I could be wrong with the figures but then the interwebs would also be wrong and the interwebs are never wrong.

So, it is clear that this bike was not designed from the ground up to be longer, lower and slacker.  It is just an Epic and someone increased the fork travel to 120mm and slapped a dropper on it.  By this definition I was riding an Epic Evo 4 years ago already. 

I would by the normal Epic for R4k less, sell the Reba and buy a Fox 34 step cast and a Lyne dropper post and Boom, you have an epic Epic Evo.  But I think someone already suggested the new fork thing. 

The Epic Evo on the lower end models is not worth it in my opinion.  If you are going for the higher end models then it might make some sense with the better Fox 34 on there but it still only gives you 125mm travel on the dropper even for the Large and XL frame.

[Mr. G]

76 kg, and 186 tall ..yet after less than a year a full scott pivot replacement was needed.

 

Scott rep agreed

 

Apologies, I thought Fat Bastard said that...

 

That is bad.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Apologies, I thought Fat Bastard said that...

 

That is bad.

. ???? Tsek

 

97kg & 180cm. Bearings are there to be replaced. My usage / replacement is not uncommon

[Dicky DQ]

If the 20mm axle to crown length that equates to about a 15mm increase in stand over height near the stem is a problem, then said newbie is on the wrong size bike.

The epic is a racy geo bike, the evo's extra 20mm didn't make it a slouch all of a sudden. If anything it will mellow it out a bit and that will help said newbie.

 

I'm saying this as someone who over forked a BMC Fourstroke to 120mm travel, and never took it back down to 100mm again.

That reminds me, Wifey asked me to put the 120mm fork on her Anthem again, I should pull finger and get it done.

I have hear a lot of this "stand over" but I don't get what it means or why it is refered to. Enlighten me please. When you you need this?

[Knersboy]

I have hear a lot of this "stand over" but I don't get what it means or why it is refered to. Enlighten me please. When you you need this?

Space between your knaters and the top tube when standing over the bike

[Grease_Monkey]

I have hear a lot of this "stand over" but I don't get what it means or why it is refered to. Enlighten me please. When you you need this?

As Knersboy said. It helps to have a low standover height when you have short legs. Shorter standover also typically translates to a lower seat tube allowing for longer dropper posts - however in the case of the Epic Evo the length of dropper possible to fit in the frame won't be effected.

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. [emoji23] Tsek

 

97kg & 180cm. Bearings are there to be replaced. My usage / replacement is not uncommon

I disagree, but even if it is the case. Scott pivot kit cost is insane.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I disagree, but even if it is the case. Scott pivot kit cost is insane.

It's always been preventative maintenance, sure. But still. Once a year I would not consider to be excessive

[Dicky DQ]

As Knersboy said. It helps to have a low standover height when you have short legs. Shorter standover also typically translates to a lower seat tube allowing for longer dropper posts - however in the case of the Epic Evo the length of dropper possible to fit in the frame won't be effected.

Ok thanks. Never considered this as I have never had a dropper post or seen the need.

[Grease_Monkey]

Ok thanks. Never considered this as I have never had a dropper post or seen the need.

Usually just an issue for shorties...

[PhilipV]

I have hear a lot of this "stand over" but I don't get what it means or why it is refered to. Enlighten me please. When you you need this?

Standover height is the height of the top tube, usually measured in the centre of the top tube.

 

The higher a bike's standover height is, the closer the frame is to your groin area when standing over the bicycle.

If a frame has a high standover height, people with short inseam (leg length) may struggle to get on the bike if it is too big for them.

The move to 29inch wheels and longer travel has made standover a thing to worry about for shorter limbed people, but there are ways that manufacturers can use to get lower standover height.

The latest trend is to have frames with sloping top tubes or kinked top tubes to increase standover, coupled with shorter head tubes to give a lower stack height (distance from floor to top of headset) and standover is under control again.