Andyr249 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 The problem with these races is that they don't have many significant climbs to break the bunches up. Add to that the sh!t road conditions and there is simply not enough space for a huge bunch to ride right over to the left. Leave it the way it is and when cars approach the bunch will move off to give them space. And then that moaner who stopped us just stands in the middle of the freaking road when they let us go again! He should've got out the way! Around the point where they stopped us some guy hit a stone which gave him a puncture. That stone then damaged my spoke and at 68km I had to pull over. I removed the spoke but the wheel still wasn't right. Luckily it was at a marshal point. Waited awhile and then the sweep vehicle came to fetch me. But then we had to go clear up a bad crash scene. The one oke didn't get up and his bike was messed. Both shifters badly damaged and rear DR snapped! His GF comes and sees him laying on the road. We loaded her bike on the bakkie and went back to CC. Last year my CC race was also bad! Andy' date=' wait till you race with the Elites. You dont need a hill to split the bunch...they'll do it on a pan flat road with a tail wind. [/quote'] Ha ha ha ha ha What is so funny? In the flat races the bunches stay big and the marshals moan like Lisa! Next year they should make CC go through the first part of SBR!! Reduce the bunch sizes. If you have a 1 litre container you are not going to fit 2 litres into it.
Cyclewizz Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 You wasted too much time arguing Trubie. Pull his handlebar out' date=' or switch him off the road. Thats the only way they learn, and if he had ridden in Belgium his riding skills would reflect that. [/quote'] Are you a track rider by some chance ??
GreyOwl3.0 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 Andy, are you going to ride Panorama? The hills there will be right up your alley. But, even if you did go through SBR, your not gonna drop someone like me who's gonna wait for the finish.
GreyOwl3.0 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 You wasted too much time arguing Trubie. Pull his handlebar out' date=' or switch him off the road. Thats the only way they learn, and if he had ridden in Belgium his riding skills would reflect that. [/quote'] Are you a track rider by some chance ?? What gave you that impression?
Andyr249 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 Simple' date=' licence as an Elite and you'll get to race with the Elites. Until then you'll never improve your situation. [/quote'] I would if I had that amount of training time but I do have to work sometime. I just think there should be other strategies to handle the marshalling of big bunches. If they is not space for everybody in the left lane at all times then there is no space. Simple. And it is only in these early season East/South races. Similar to the Cradle problem just before Argus and 94.7! After the argus the Cradle will be quite again.
Andyr249 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 Andy' date=' are you going to ride Panorama? The hills there will be right up your alley. But, even if you did go through SBR, your not gonna drop someone like me who's gonna wait for the finish.[/quote'] Not riding that this year. Work and Leave issues.Maybe won't drop you but it will spit a few others out the back and make the group smaller. Then the group can fit into the left lane and then marshals won't moan.
Guest Agteros Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 Simple' date=' licence as an Elite and you'll get to race with the Elites. Until then you'll never improve your situation. [/quote'] I would if I had that amount of training time but I do have to work sometime. I just think there should be other strategies to handle the marshalling of big bunches. If they is not space for everybody in the left lane at all times then there is no space. Simple. And it is only in these early season East/South races. Similar to the Cradle problem just before Argus and 94.7! After the argus the Cradle will be quite again. Riders go over the line because they can get away with it. The marshalls should be ruthless with enforcing the 'do not cross the white line' rule. Take down the numbers, and indicate to the rider that he has been DQd. Riders will quickly learn to string the bunch out so it can fit to the left of the line. This might even help with breaking up the bunches.
Cyclewizz Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 They going to need to split the A bunch. Still dont understand why the top 20 - 50 A bunch riders don't license, surely it can't be because of the money.
Andyr249 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 There are other factors involved Os - road condition, wind etc. Do that and the numbers will drop. And as I said it is only a problem in these early season races.
GreyOwl3.0 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 They going to need to split the A bunch. Still dont understand why the top 20 - 50 A bunch riders don't license' date=' surely it can't be because of the money. [/quote'] The step between A bunch and Elites is a big one. A very big one.
Andyr249 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 They going to need to split the A bunch. Still dont understand why the top 20 - 50 A bunch riders don't license' date=' surely it can't be because of the money. [/quote'] Because they work and have jobs. If the licence they get put into Elite and won't keep up. They don't have the same training time.
Cyclewizz Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 Maybe they need to create a Vets 25 -29 then it would be slower than Elites but faster than A bunch.
Guest Agteros Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 There are other factors involved Os - road condition' date=' wind etc. Do that and the numbers will drop. And as I said it is only a problem in these early season races.[/quote'] Organisers can only work with the tools that provided to them. DQ is one such tool, albeit a harsh one. But dealing with a head on collision between car / motor vehicle is harsh as well. Nearly as bad is when those in the wrong push back into the bunch when a car approaches. Causes major chaos further down the pack! Unfortunately (for you?) there is a place for these fast / flat races as well... Rider behaviour just need to be changed for them as they've shown that they can't/won't do it themselves.
Cyclewizz Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 Any of you nutters know when the official results will be out ?
GreyOwl3.0 Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 They going to need to split the A bunch. Still dont understand why the top 20 - 50 A bunch riders don't license' date=' surely it can't be because of the money. [/quote'] Because they work and have jobs. If the licence they get put into Elite and won't keep up. They don't have the same training time. I disagree dude. I know several guys who have full time jobs where they are on their feet all day, as well as guys at Varsity who train very little in comparison to other Elites and they manage to stay in the bunch. Yes, training plays a very important part (read, VERY) but its possible. A category exists for those guys who are competitive, but not looking at cycling as a full time job. Its a sport and they want to enjoy the competitve nature of the sport without the intensity/devotion needed for Elites. As for the flatter races, you (Andy) have to understand you still have the ability and chance to win these events. Racing smart and getting into a winning move does not favour a climber any less than a sprinter.as for non climbers they have no chance of winning or even finishing hilly events with the leaders. And, if I came on here and complained that the event was too hard and I could not win because of the hills...you guys are going to laugh and tell me to train more. GreyOwl3.02010-02-28 08:27:08
Ha Ha Kieran Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 No ha ha! Kid heard you did a good time this morning! Well done dude! Racked up a nice 250kms this weekend! And today is my last day at work! When's the next race
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