MTB wheels for big ouks

[TallBoy]

I'm a moerse tall ouk clocking in at a 100kg.  I ride a Specialised Caron Epic Expert which has DT swiss hubs and rims.  I keep on breaking spokes and I don't think the wheels are strong enough for my build.  They also seem a bit heavy. 

 

Any suggestions out there as to what wheels I should be looking at?

[Guest Big H]

Nothing wrong with your wheelset. Get a proper wheelbuilder. Look at www.yellowsaddle.co.za

 

 

[vanniri]

I weigh 87 and used XTR hubs, laced with DT spokes (not butted) on Mavic 819 on two bikes in excess of 4 years without any servicing needs.

One set is on a Santa Cruz Chameleon which were used for real hard riding over anything I managed to clear.

 

Had them hand built by some British oke visiting Shimano during the time I got them. He even dipped the ends into linoleum oil and let it dry somewhat before screwing into rims, I knew since the rims never really manage to come clean.

 

Bottom line: expert handbuilt using non-butted spokes on 32 hole rims should do it for you.

 

[Guest Big H]

I weigh 87 and used XTR hubs' date=' laced with DT spokes (not butted) on Mavic 819 on two bikes in excess of 4 years without any servicing needs.

One set is on a Santa Cruz Chameleon which were used for real hard riding over anything I managed to clear.

 

Had them hand built by some British oke visiting Shimano during the time I got them. He even dipped the ends into linoleum oil and let it dry somewhat before screwing into rims, I knew since the rims never really manage to come clean.

 

Bottom line: expert handbuilt using non-butted spokes on 32 hole rims should do it for you.

 

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What is "linoleum oil" and what is the use of dipping your spokes in it, does it keep the cockroaches away?????????

[Guest Big H]

I weigh 87 and used XTR hubs' date=' laced with DT spokes (not butted) on Mavic 819 on two bikes in excess of 4 years without any servicing needs.

One set is on a Santa Cruz Chameleon which were used for real hard riding over anything I managed to clear.

 

Had them hand built by some British oke visiting Shimano during the time I got them. He even dipped the ends into linoleum oil and let it dry somewhat before screwing into rims, I knew since the rims never really manage to come clean.

 

Bottom line: expert handbuilt using non-butted spokes on 32 hole rims should do it for you.

 

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What is "linoleum oil" and what is the use of dipping your spokes in it, does it keep the cockroaches away?????????

 

I have a 32 hole 700C wheel on my Trek Hybrid with double butted spokes and I weigh a lot. I have never broken any spokes on this wheel becuase it was properly built.

[vanniri]

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What is "linoleum oil" and what is the use of dipping your spokes in it, does it keep the cockroaches away?????????

 

Used as an alternative for waxing wood (other uses - ask a carpenter).

 

When it is applied it has the substance of oil, it takes long to dry but when it does it feels like "Lock Nut" out of the bottle, eventually it becomes brittle if left exposed.

 

To built a wheel you dip the screw-in section in the oil, let it dry overnight hanging down with the screw-in section facing down and use it the next day to built your wheels.

 

 

[vanniri]

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What is "linoleum oil" and what is the use of dipping your spokes in it, does it keep the cockroaches away?????????

 

Used as an alternative for waxing wood (other uses - ask a carpenter).

 

When it is applied it has the substance of oil, it takes long to dry but when it does it feels like "Lock Nut" out of the bottle, eventually it becomes brittle if left exposed.

 

To built a wheel you dip the screw-in section in the oil, let it dry overnight hanging down with the screw-in section facing down and use it the next day to built your wheels.

 

 

[AndreZA]

JB is gonna give you an ear full for using "glue" to keep spokes in place. Talk to him, he guarantees his wheels for life.

 

 

[Johan Bornman]

I weigh 87 and used XTR hubs' date=' laced with DT spokes (not butted) on Mavic 819 on two bikes in excess of 4 years without any servicing needs.

One set is on a Santa Cruz Chameleon which were used for real hard riding over anything I managed to clear.

 

Had them hand built by some British oke visiting Shimano during the time I got them. He even dipped the ends into linoleum oil and let it dry somewhat before screwing into rims, I knew since the rims never really manage to come clean.

 

Bottom line: expert handbuilt using non-butted spokes on 32 hole rims should do it for you.

 

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Not quite. If you dig a little bit deeper you'll find that double-butted are the more durable spokes. It may seem counter-intuitive, but

true.

 

Your Shimano expert used Linseed oil. Boiled Linseed oil to be specific. It is a medieval concoction that resemles Loctite. By boilding the linseed oil it polymerises and becomes sticky and eventually, hard.

 

The British Shimano bloke had no faith in his wheelbuilding, thinking that the nipples will come loose by themselves. Probably does, an indication that he under-tensions his wheels.

 

A knowledgeable wheelbuilder will use oil, yet never fear that his (sorry,  MudDee is watching) ....wheel's nipples will unscrew. He keeps them there with spoke tension.

 

 

[vanniri]

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What is "linoleum oil" and what is the use of dipping your spokes in it, does it keep the cockroaches away?????????

 

Used as an alternative for waxing wood (other uses - ask a carpenter).

 

When it is applied it has the substance of oil, it takes long to dry but when it does it feels like "Lock Nut" out of the bottle, eventually it becomes brittle if left exposed.

 

To built a wheel you dip the screw-in section in the oil, let it dry overnight hanging down with the screw-in section facing down and use it the next day to built your wheels.

 

 

[vanniri]

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What is "linoleum oil" and what is the use of dipping your spokes in it, does it keep the cockroaches away?????????

 

Used as an alternative for waxing wood (other uses - ask a carpenter).

 

When it is applied it has the substance of oil, it takes long to dry but when it does it feels like "Lock Nut" out of the bottle, eventually it becomes brittle if left exposed.

 

To built a wheel you dip the screw-in section in the oil, let it dry overnight hanging down with the screw-in section facing down and use it the next day to built your wheels.

 

 

[JPW#]

just check the reviews on mtbr, I know a few mtb'rs over 120kg! and they all ride mavic wheels, complete wheel sets not sure the model but Mavic is the brand to go for, ull be spending probably anywhere from 2k-10k depending on model. I wouldnt have any wheels built up I would buy a complete factory wheel set from Mavic..thats my 2 cents.