Slowbee Posted May 13, 2009 Share Sorry raleigh NEVER AGAIN !!! Why not' date=' because you saw another bike like yours costing more or because the bike sucked?[/quote'] this is an ofside question. As TNT mentioned - you did not insult anyone first before posing a real question, and then insulting someone (or rather something else). did someone say troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javadude Posted May 13, 2009 Share Sorry raleigh NEVER AGAIN !!! Why not' date=' because you saw another bike like yours costing more or because the bike sucked?[/quote'] this is an ofside question. As TNT mentioned - you did not insult anyone first before posing a real question, and then insulting someone (or rather something else). did someone say troll? Sorry Slowbee, let me try again: Insult:Gobbo, you're an idiot!!! Pose a question:Have you compared the 09 Felt prices with 08? 50% more i tell you, i'm not making this up. Insult something else:Felt, you're idiots for net selling your bikes at cost!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted May 13, 2009 Share Sorry Slowbee' date=' let me try again:Insult:Gobbo, you're an idiot!!!Pose a question:Have you compared the 09 Felt prices with 08? 50% more i tell you, i'm not making this up.Insult something else:Felt, you're idiots for net selling your bikes at cost!!!!![/quote'] Well put, expert insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help.Me. Posted May 13, 2009 Share just received email from cycle shop with price list on Raleigh's anybody interested??they are wheyyyyy down !? Help.Me.2009-05-13 06:19:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted May 13, 2009 Share just received email from cycle shop with price list on Raleigh's anybody interested??they are wheyyyyy down !? we know, between 17-24%. Was listed here last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbo Posted May 13, 2009 Share When looking at buying a new bike this is what I found:Raleigh RC6000 Alli with carbon forks and rear stays with shimano 105.....+-R20.000Felt F4 Full carbon ,Shimano Ultegra SL R20.000NO BRAINER WHICH TO CHOOSE IN MY OPINIONThis was towards the end of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javadude Posted May 13, 2009 Share When looking at buying a new bike this is what I found:Raleigh RC6000 Alli with carbon forks and rear stays with shimano 105.....+-R20.000Felt F4 Full carbon ' date='Shimano Ultegra SL R20.000NO BRAINER WHICH TO CHOOSE IN MY OPINIONThis was towards the end of last year.[/quote'] Felt f4 is now R27999. Equivalent Raleigh RC7000 is now R23999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterM Posted May 13, 2009 Share Regarding 9% mark-up: No retailer can operate with such a low mark-up, even Makro does more. It?s most properly a confusion of terms ? it might be, fixed costs + variable costs + an additional 9% margin. Just a thought.Regarding Recommended Price ? wholesaler / distributor / importers are only allowed to recommend a price. The dealer has the final decision ? the competition tribunal and commission enforces that big time. See car / dairy / SASOL / bread / food / etc industry. Massive fines are dished out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javadude Posted May 13, 2009 Share Regarding Recommended Price ? wholesaler / distributor / importers are only allowed to recommend a price. The dealer has the final decision ? the competition tribunal and commission enforces that big time. See car / dairy / SASOL / bread / food / etc industry. Massive fines are dished out.[/quote'] Is this true even if the dealer never actually pays for the product up front. As far as i know most distributors are taking the risk by accepting payment for stock only once the bike is sold, effectively giving the dealer a "loan" for the product. Surely the distributor should have a say in the pricing if its going to affect how quickly they will get a return on their investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted May 13, 2009 Share Aah, consignment stock. You just opened a can of whipp-ass! Sure shops do have the final say, but ask some shop owners how many have received calls from dealers who threatened to pull their brand from the shop's floor if they continue to sell too far below RRP. Other shops moan and then the dealer jumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterM Posted May 13, 2009 Share Aah, consignment stock. You just opened a can of whipp-ass! Yes with consignment stock there is the real potential of ?leaning-on?. But it goes further ? any loan/credit facility to the shop, could trigger some aspects of the National Credit Act and that puts obligations to the credit provider (distributor etc), such as credit check, affordability assessment, etc, etc. ? it opens a can of worms....<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbo Posted May 14, 2009 Share How time has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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