Wich Club to join?

[Guest Frail4Life]

I am movint to the City (Cape Town) next year and want to know wich club to join and why please

 

I ride mtb and road.

 

I would recommend City Cycling, Based in Edgemead and catering for road and mtb. Have a look at the website www.citycyclingclub.org We have members in Sub Vet, Masters and down the seeding categories. Give me PM and I will give you some more details.

 

Enjoy the cycling

 

David

[RobG]

I will also vote for Tygerberg MTB Club - very active and growing

[Regard]

I would say none!

 

I've been a member at two different clubs and must say that they offer you nothing but a Ride subscription.

 

I ride with the friends, so don't join club rides, I don't believe in advertising for them by wearing their clothes(it is dorky in any case)

The 5% discount( or whatever) is not worth it?

 

So I see no need for it.

[bees]

I would say none!

 

I've been a member at two different clubs and must say that they offer you nothing but a Ride subscription.

 

I ride with the friends' date=' so don't join club rides, I don't believe in advertising for them by wearing their clothes(it is dorky in any case)

The 5% discount( or whatever) is not worth it?

 

So I see no need for it.

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mmmm, well said. that is probably the reason why i've also never joined a club.

 

 

[ChrisH]

I would say none!

 

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I've been a member at two different clubs and must say that they offer you nothing but a Ride subscription.

 

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I ride with the friends' date=' so don't join club rides, I don't believe in advertising for them by wearing their clothes(it is dorky in any case)

 

The 5% discount( or whatever) is not worth it?

 

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So I see no need for it.

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mmmm, well said. that is probably the reason why i've also never joined a club.

 

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That's the reason you have probably never joined a club? What you are really saying is that you haven't actually thought it through.

 

 

 

There's nothing like a good reasoned argument to make a point so it's a pity you didn't make one, prefering instead to add to the signal to noise ratioChrisH2009-11-28 05:06:39

[Guest Agteros]

 

 

 

I would say none!

 

I've been a member at two different clubs and must say that they offer you nothing but a Ride subscription.

 

I ride with the friends' date=' so don't join club rides, I don't believe in advertising for them by wearing their clothes(it is dorky in any case)

The 5% discount( or whatever) is not worth it?

 

So I see no need for it.

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You are approaching YOUR club incorrectly. A club a a group of group  of people sharing a common passion (cycling in this case). It therefor acts as a vehicle for you to live out that passion. Living out this passion does not mean you pay a fee to receive a service! The success of a cycling club is dependant on the actions (and lack thereof) of its members. If you do nothing for / via the club obviously it will provide nothing back to you.

 

You are like an illiterate joining a book club, and then complaining that nobody wants to read stories to you!

 

Remember the Kennedy speech containing these:

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country. 

 

My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.

 

THE SAME GOES FOR A CYCLING CLUB!

 

 

edit: spelling mistakes left intact in spirit with the topic!

Agteros2009-11-28 06:45:41

[RobG]

For MTB, trails do not just "majik-ally" appear nor maintain themselves nor negotiate with landowners / other users.

 

[virgo]

That is true.  And Tygerbergmtb-club works really hard at maintaining, as well as building new trails. As well as offer you the opportunity to make real friends who shares your passion - especially when moving to a new place.

 

I agree that some clubs can improve (I share the sentiments with some other hubbers that all clubs are not equal), however, the aforementioned club is an active club that will pull you in if that is what you want to do.  By the sound of  it, you would like to become part of a group who does exactly that.

 

There's always someone willing to ride with a newcomer and show them the trails, etc.

 

I live far from there, but when I go to CT, I contact them and they're still willing to help me.  Some of the other clubs in that area want you to become a member before anything happens.  Not these "friends". You can be as active as you want to be.  A lot of the guys also do road riding - therefore plenty of scope for that too.

 

Go and enjoy -  if I'm very lucky, I might be in "Majic Forest" next weekend.  AWESOME!!

 

[Gasping]

Agteros, is that not typical of society today in that we want everyone to do everything for us and if they don't meet up with our elevated expectations (because we are paying for it) then we tell the world how lousy they are?

 

I agree with you fully about getting involved in what you have an interest in. Not to hijack the thread, but I even got involved in community policing after me and my family were hijacked 4 1/2 years ago.

 

It is easy to be part of the problem. It is not so easy to be part of the solution. Once again one of my dictum's rings true - the easy thing in life has no value.

 

Well said. Well done. Bravo!

[jagwil]

spelling and casting of spells is not big here

 

The understatement of the year.

[Guest Frail4Life]

Please view topic under Edgemead, Training Clinic, Everybody is welcome from surrounding areas.

 

David

[Regard]

Look ou agteros and gasping, I never said clubs don't have a place.

Sure, if you do not have anybody to ride with it is a wonderfull way to meet new people, get help see new trails etc, etc.

 

But in my case, I work from 7:00am to 16:00 so the 6:00 weekday rides is useless. Over the weekends I have allot of cycling buddies that I would rather join than a club ride!

 

And yes you all would be terrible hypocrites( and that is the correct spelling) if you say that in todays day and age you do not expect some kind of value for money paid!! I remember clearly that both of you where very vocal about value for money in a post not very long ago!

 

To cap: Yes, if you have the need to meet new poeple, help out and put allot of energy into a club, GO FOR IT! If not, it is not worth it.

[Gasping]

Regard, what I was trying to say is that if the club is not working for an individual, then what is that individual doing to get things changed?

 

Most people (and I was guessing that this includes you from you the  tone of your post) think that club fees entitles them to "world class" service. Most people forget that clubs are run by volunteers who also have a full time job.

 

That is all. Not picking on you if I misread your post. If I did not misread your post, then yes, I am picking on you.

 

[Guest Agteros]

 

Look ou agteros and gasping' date=' I never said clubs don't have a place.

Sure, if you do not have anybody to ride with it is a wonderfull(sic) way to meet new people, get help see new trails etc, etc.

 

But in my case, I work from 7:00am to 16:00 so the 6:00 weekday rides is useless. Over the weekends I have allot of cycling buddies that I would rather join than a club ride!

 

And yes you all would be terrible hypocrites( and that is the correct spelling) [edit: ] if you say that in todays day and age you do not expect some kind of value for money paid!! I remember clearly that both of you where very vocal about value for money in a post not very long ago!

 

To cap: Yes, if you have the need to meet new poeple(sic), help out and put allot(sic) of energy into a club, GO FOR IT! If not, it is not worth it.

 

1. Please do not try to be condescending. Ek is nie jou 'ou' nie...

2. Since you brought spelling into the equation remember that "mense in glashuise nie klippe moet gooi nie",

 

With that out of the way,

 

I do think that you missed the point I'm making completely... It is not about what you get out of a club. 99.9% of clubs do not have full time staff but are rather operated by volunteers for free in their own personal time. As quoted below, a lot of the work done by these  clubs is selfless and actually benefits the greater cycling community and not necessarily ONLY the club and/or members. For most cyclists the support they provide to the clubs are not with direct work done for / via / on behalf of the club, but merely the financial support by being a member.

 

Clubs do have overheads and expense, and they get around to paying for these by charging a membership fee, as well as providing advertising space to sponsors. Agreed, sometimes this goes overboard and leaves the club kit looking like a newspaper insert. As a club member that is the method of paying the price for having a club through which you can life you dream...

 

I agree about your 'value' statement. For that exact same reason I do not belong to Club 100. They charge  +/-R300 per annum more than what my current club does. Yes, the provide many benefits, most of which I will never be able to use),.So, I've decided to rather stay with a smaller club, and maybe try and get involved with an internal rejuvenation so that it can be a place where I feel completely at home.

 

As stated regarding the work done by clubs:

 

For MTB' date=' trails do not just "majik-ally" appear nor maintain themselves nor negotiate with landowners / other users.

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That is true.  And Tygerbergmtb-club works really hard at

maintaining' date=' as well as building new trails. As well as offer you the

opportunity to make real friends who shares your passion - especially

when moving to a new place.[/quote']

 

However, if you are too busy leading (hopefully not suffering) your life, please do not knock clubs, but rather state the fact that in your case, membership of a club was not the correct option, even after trying two different clubs. Remember then to state the reasons as you provided them above.

 

PS: Hopefully my spelling and grammar are found to be adequate... Please remember that I am but a mere rock spider, that grew up on the 'plaas'!

 

[Regard]

No love lost Agteros and Gasping!(p.s. I wasn't trying to be condecending and yes, you can't be my "ou", I've got a "vrou".)

 

It is our ability to differ that makes life so interisting, isn't it?

 

Hopefully we have now given NoCalves enough food for thought for him to make the right decision for himself.

 

Now for the next topic we can differ on(or maybe even agree on!)

[Guest Agteros]

 

No love lost Agteros and Gasping!(p.s. I wasn't trying to be condecending and yes' date=' you can't be my "ou", I've got a "vrou".)

 

It is our ability to differ that makes life so interisting, isn't it?

 

Hopefully we have now given NoCalves enough food for thought for him to make the right decision for himself.

 

Now for the next topic we can differ on(or maybe even agree on!)

[/quote']

 

What? Agree? On the hub? Better chance of Christmas snow in Durban!