Does the hub/axle hang from or stand on the spokes ?

[Wyatt Earp]

Maybe here is the answer..... and educated one and not one by young kids that graduated form low class South African institutions of learning.....

 

J. Engrg. Mech. Volume 119, Issue 3, pp. 439-455 (March 1993)

 

C. J. Burgoyne 1 and R. Dilmaghanian2

1Univ. Lect., Engrg. Dept., Univ. of Cambridge, Trumpington St., Cambridge CB2 1PZ, United Kingdom

2Formerly, Steel Construction Inst.

 

Issue Date: March 1993

 

Bicycle wheels achieve their structural efficiency by making use of prestressing in three ways. Tests show that the bottom spokes carry virtually all the load by compressive forces, which reduce the tensile prestress set up in the spokes when the wheel was made. The test results are compared with an analysis that considers the spokes as a disk that can carry force in one direction only. This is shown to give good agreement, as does an analysis that considers the rim as a straight beam on an elastic foundation. The behavior of the wheel with an inflated tire is also considered, and it is shown that good comparisons with theory are obtained if the reaction from the road is assumed to be distributed over a specific length of the rim. Prestressing is shown to be important also in the mechanism by which the various forces are transmitted through the tire from the road to the rim.

 

©1993 American Society of Civil Engineers"

What a croc of ****, where is the practical proof ?

[Wyatt Earp]

my final check is the "twang". I am totally tone deaf but have learnt my own interpretation of the "twang"

 

"Les Triplettes de Belleville" analogy is just a continuation of your fued and not really an intelligent observation.

Please elaborate on this, what you are actually telling me that your final check stands a risk of being very inaccurate, you are saying that your ear is the final decider and even worse you claim that your "nail in the coffin" suffers from being tone deaf.

Seems like a WOMAN HAS OUTDONE you, Bruno's grandma understood that to be precisely as close to 100 % accurate as possible, she needed to determine the resonating frequency of the spokes.

[Guest Big H]

Yes I certainly understand the difference between first principle and the practical in the field, but let's just get one thing clear, the principles still need to be applied.

:lol: As *** praat n' siekte was het hulle jou lankal al in n' lood kis begrawe onder die paaie wat jy glo so bou.

Seems like you need to get your head out the sewer and leave behind the need to try and bully people by trying to make them believe that when you have hands on experience, you may declare yourself qualified.

I think you are where you are because you are not a very subservient type of individual and have probably never held wayleaves in your two russian fingered hands.

As dit by klank en frequencies kom sal ek jou naam liederlik gat maak

 

Wayleaves.... are they still using them is SA or are they exibits in the Peoples Museum. Paaie wat ek ..... saam met ander spanne, ja goed soos die word deur 'n span kundige en bekwame mense gedoen, gebou het hou.... jy ry elke dag op van hulle, dit is as jou paspoort jou toelaat om Midrand te verlaat. I am where I am because I earn US$$$ here four times more than I could or would ever earn in SA...... but then again you know nothing of me nor do you know what my abilities are..... what is glaringly obvious though is that JB must have given you a very hard hiding somewhere in your obscure past.

Edited December 19, 2010 by Big H

[Guest Big H]

Please elaborate on this, what you are actually telling me that your final check stands a risk of being very inaccurate, you are saying that your ear is the final decider and even worse you claim that your "nail in the coffin" suffers from being tone deaf.

Seems like a WOMAN HAS OUTDONE you, Bruno's grandma understood that to be precisely as close to 100 % accurate as possible, she needed to determine the resonating frequency of the spokes.

 

Please tell me how you determine even spoke tension..... maybe your knowledge of building sewers combined with your wheelbuilding abilities can teach me something.

[Wyatt Earp]

Wayleaves.... are they still using them is SA or are they exibits in the Peoples Museum. Paie wat ek ..... saam met ander spanne, ja goed soos die word deur 'n span kundige en bekwame mense gedoen, gebou het hou.... jy ry elke dag op van hulle, dit is as jou paspoort jou toelaat om Midrand te verlaat. I am where I am becuase I earn US$$$ here four times more than I could or would ever earn in SA...... but then again you know nothing of me nor do you know what my abilities are..... what is glaringly obvious though is that JB must have given you a very hard hiding somewhere in your obscure past.

:lol: :lol:

Wayleaves, yes, they don't bribe here !!!!!!!!!!!

You are truly a two faced clown, but then again you know that, RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I earn US $$$$$".........braggart !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know nothing of you, yes correct, you know even less of me, but you seem to forget the old glass house saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like your exit sentence, they call it "die ou het niks om te se nie", hy het verloor.

Looks to me like JB has given you a good bj seeing you always feel the need to come to his defense.

 

I find his lack of technical competence and know how entertaining, nothing more, nothing less .

What is even more entertaining is that you seem to stereotype exactly that type of individual, the type that gets involved in a technical discussion, the type that has an answer for everything asked, I have seen so many people get driven away because they get ripped to pieces when they ask a simple ignorant question, bully's every school yard has them, why should we change them? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (let them be miserable because they refuse to change themselves)

Good night you bored and boring old man, I do hope that your grandchildren can get rid of some of that anger and hatred you carry so proudly.

And BigH, merry Christmas, may you find joy in each cracker you pull and most of all may you loose your ability to stop making enemies on the HUB.

 

 

Oops pardon all the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, I really want to win this argument between I & J and make my ...............................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BogusOne]

Fighting and bickering about rubbish as usuall..... Why dont you guys just chill and go ride your bikes or play with your wheels? What does it matter if the hub hangs from the top or stands on the spokes??? Geez

[Wyatt Earp]

Please tell me how you determine even spoke tension..... maybe your knowledge of building sewers combined with your wheelbuilding abilities can teach me something.

Jy is verskriklik dig, where do you come with sewers , or is this your only retort to try and make my name gat ?

What you are doing is you are putting the ball in the other players hand for a serve because of your own inability to deliver a good serve.

I asked you a question first, at least be a gentleman and answer me instead of bouncing around the fact that you made some poor arguments.

[Wyatt Earp]

Fighting and bickering about rubbish as usuall..... Why dont you guys just chill and go ride your bikes or play with your wheels? What does it matter if the hub hangs from the top or stands on the spokes??? Geez

I agree, who cares, but should Santa be left alone when he attacks a poor and innocent fellow hubber ?

Quite frankly what you need to understand, he loves this type of confrontation, it keeps him off the streets and out of the red light districts in his town, he need this, he thrives on it.

Interesting , if you go a few steps back, this is what I said, and I don't see grounds for a fight in my comment, but man alive, did BigH show his true character again, and very quickly too.

 

Now please BogusOne, tell me do you see me picking a fight here ?

 

But........die akademiese twak has a valid point, where is the evidence, there is a difference between evidence and observation.

As for tapping the spokes and getting a different sound, well seems to me like someone watched the Triplets of Belleville.

Now Bruno's grandma uses a tuning fork which will emit a better pitch (and a more accurate pitch, time and again) than the dull and lifeless human finger or nail which is not capable of resonating at the frequency required.

[CharlV]

Fighting and bickering about rubbish as usuall..... Why dont you guys just chill and go ride your bikes or play with your wheels? What does it matter if the hub hangs from the top or stands on the spokes??? Geez

 

 

Geez !!!

My popcorns' finished , you guys need to make up before Christmas!! This world is full of tooooooooo much shiiiitee as it is , kom aan manne , julle is beter as dit .

 

I have to add as independent observer and a mere Mining Engineer, with no qaulification to add any thing of vallue on this specific topic , that in real life one will almost always find a place where "techical astuteness" and plain "experience" due to years of exposure have common ground and the one can not be with-out the other ! having said that I wish the lot of you a Merry Christmas !!!!!

[Guest Big H]

Dear Dangle.... specially for you.....

[Wyatt Earp]

in real life one will almost always find a place where "techical astuteness" and plain "experience" due to years of exposure have common ground and the one can not be with-out the other ! having said that I wish the lot of you a Merry Christmas !!!!!

Charl, Merry Christmas to you.

I wish I could be where you are, I love Rustenburg

[Wyatt Earp]

Dear Dangle.... specially for you.....

You made your name gat again, and in a short space of time too.

Not once did I give my side of the hub hangs or stands theory.

What I do need an award for is that I gave a bored old man some company on a Sunday evening.

Lekker slaap Big hen squeeze

[Topwine]

 

Quite frankly what you need to understand, he loves this type of confrontation, it keeps him off the streets and out of the red light districts in his town, he need this, he thrives on it.

 

Now please BogusOne, tell me do you see me picking a fight here ?

 

Hi Dangle

 

You are wasting your time. Really, just ignore him. He has shown the world his ignorance and incompetence.

 

It seems that he has even used 2 different log-ins in the past to post, so much does he loves it. Do the calculations of the amount of posts per day, times the years he has been at it. He has a problem, and I wonder how much work he gets done if he spends all the time posting and never mind the time reading probably every post on the hub.

 

See here : https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/157-something-smells-in-here/page__view__findpost__p__2986

[Guest Big H]

You made your name gat again, and in a short space of time too.

Not once did I give my side of the hub hangs or stands theory.

What I do need an award for is that I gave a bored old man some company on a Sunday evening.

Lekker slaap Big hen squeeze

 

Netso.... geniet dit maar as jy op die Ben Schoeman ry!!!!!!!.... en oppas vir daai vrot No Name Brand hoenners wat julle daar in Gauteng eet!!!!!!!!

Edited December 19, 2010 by Big H

[Topwine]

Big H, alias Hendrik Pretorius, ek gaan jou base in die hande kry en vir hulle al hierdie gemors van jou aanstuur vir hulle om te oordeel of jy regtig daardie promosie verdien .

[CharlV]

Charl, Merry Christmas to you.

I wish I could be where you are, I love Rustenburg

 

 

Dangle

Down in Knysna brother , enjouying some MTBing in the woods , its been raining 6 days non stop but I went out the Old kaapse Route to Gouna this morning ,awesome !!1