Join PPA and CSA???

[Big J]

Do one need to join PPA or CSA if you only want to do fun rides?

 

Are there any advantages?

[Tankman]

Better to join CSA if you intend in doing more than 2 races a year otherwise buying day licenses will be more expensive than the yearly membership.

 

PPA - unless you want a seeded number to start races in an earlier group, there is no real need to join them.

You will only get upset with their seeding system anyway so you might as well start races at the back

[Tankman]

I cant remember if you have to belong to a club for CSA membership or not? But for a full racing license (which you wont need) you must belong to a club.

If you need a club, join ROAG, its a virtual online club and only R50 membership per year

 

www.roag.co.za

 

 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2010 by Tankman

[Ceres]

Depends on how serious you want to ride. You dont want to start at the back of the field if you are a strong rider. Its also nice to see if you are getting better if your seeding does go up.

[Big J]

I cant remember if you have to belong to a club for CSA membership or not? But for a full license (which you wont need) you must belong to a club.

 

If you need a club, join ROAG, its a virtual online club and only R50 membership per year

www.roag.co.za

 

Thanks for the advise Tankman!

[andydude]

Tank - when you join PPA or do the Argus you automatically get a membership to the CSA with which you can do funrides until they cycle out of your ears.

 

From there you can upgrade to CSA racing license which you need for e.g. WP champs, certain track events, pro events. You don't even need a racing license for the Western Cape leagues.

[Tankman]

Tank - when you join PPA or do the Argus you automatically get a membership to the CSA with which you can do funrides until they cycle out of your ears.

 

CSA yearly membership is R75

Day license is R35

 

Correct, your CSA membership is included in your yearly PPA membership of R255

 

If you entered the Argus your CSA membership or day license were added over and above the normal entry fee (R250?)

Edited December 21, 2010 by Tankman

[andydude]

If you entered the Argus your CSA membership or day license were added over and above the normal entry fee (R250?)

 

Regarding the Argus - the entry already includes a day license so nothing added. If you are PPA then you get a discount, because the PPA's annual fee already includes a day license.

 

I think it is better joining PPA as you'll get discounts for the funrides instead of paying full price and day license for every event. And you also get the seeding which works in most circumstances, otherwise you're always going to start at the back/unseeded.

[River Rat]

Big J have a look at my post under Rant it might be the way to go but it could be specific to your provincial set up.

[Stretch]

If you entered the Argus your CSA membership or day license were added over and above the normal entry fee (R250?)

Argus entry includes full csa membership/old cyclosport (R75). you still need to register to activate it though

[Tankman]

Argus entry includes full csa membership/old cyclosport (R75). you still need to register to activate it though

 

How sure you are about this?

What did an entry cost then if you were not a PPA member?

Did you have a choice between the day license and the full membership?

 

The CSA membership is definitely included in your annual PPA membership, I am not so sure that it was included in your Argus entry.

A day license maybe but not full membership. CSA will not just hand out 35000 memberships if they want everyone to be a member from 2011?

 

35000 x R75 = R 2 625 000 loss in revenue if they just handed it out potential revenue that they are not collecting

Edited December 21, 2010 by Tankman

[Stretch]

How sure you are about this?

99.9% sure

[Tankman]

question two and three?

[Stretch]

question two and three?

someone from PPA would have to answer that, but

i dont think a day license option was offered (clarification needed), and there must have been a price difference between PPA entries and non-PPA entries.

 

sorry I cant offer more. all i do know is that Argus entries include membership

[andydude]

As far as I understand the new CSA licensing - there's no more cyclosport license, only CSA member/day license and racing license. CSA member/day license is R35, but when you join PPA or enter the Argus that is included so all PPA and Argus riders are registered as a CSA member. But if you want to race WP/SA champs, CSA races (mostly for the pros in Jhb) and other special events like the track's Grand Prix series you need the extra racing license that costs R350.

[River Rat]

Andy there is still a cyclosport license and it costs R75.00. I have just bought one and it is true that it does not allow you to race for national and provincial honours.