Powerbalance BUSTED

[The_Break]

Look on youtube, there are tests proving it doesn't work

 

Why would Powerbalance give in so easily in Australia if it does work, the USA may follow suite now and then they are in groot k@k

 

Take a Powerbalance band to an electronics repairer. Ask him to show you on an ocillascope the 7.85hz frequency that comes out of the band, the guy will laugh at you

 

There are also tests (n person) showing it does work. So how do we scientifically shoow either way. All I am saying is it not conclusive and nowhere has Power Balance stated it does not work.

 

We gotta get the facts right as there is a clear difference between the 2.

[The_Break]

Noo! Jeepers. The looney option is freakin expensive. Not sure any normal oke will haul out that sort of hay.

 

You didn't use Unobtainium for that one did you?

[Zeps]

Without sounding sarcastic The_Break but are you the agent for these or sell them ..... just wondering

[chris_w_65]

There are also tests (n person) showing it does work. So how do we scientifically shoow either way. All I am saying is it not conclusive and nowhere has Power Balance stated it does not work.

 

We gotta get the facts right as there is a clear difference between the 2.

 

The tests only show they work if they do the 2nd test with the band on. If they reverse it then the tests fail. There are a few reasons for this, you can find them on the internet.

 

They also do a test with 4 subjects, they only put a powerbalance card in one persons back pocket and credit cards in the other 3 without them knowing what they each have. They then get a Powerbalance demonstrator to come in the room and do the various tests and guess who has the Powerbalance. FAIL every time

[chris_w_65]

The tests only show they work if they do the 2nd test with the band on. If they reverse it then the tests fail. There are a few reasons for this, you can find them on the internet.

 

They also do a test with 4 subjects, they only put a powerbalance card in one persons back pocket and credit cards in the other 3 without them knowing what they each have. They then get a Powerbalance demonstrator to come in the room and do the various tests and guess who has the Powerbalance. FAIL every time

 

Watch this, I will look for more

 

 

Watch the tjop at 2:08, he claims a 500% increase in strength, balance etc

[chris_w_65]

The tests only show they work if they do the 2nd test with the band on. If they reverse it then the tests fail. There are a few reasons for this, you can find them on the internet.

 

They also do a test with 4 subjects, they only put a powerbalance card in one persons back pocket and credit cards in the other 3 without them knowing what they each have. They then get a Powerbalance demonstrator to come in the room and do the various tests and guess who has the Powerbalance. FAIL every time

 

Watch this tjop, "it charges the water"

 

[The_Break]

The tests only show they work if they do the 2nd test with the band on. If they reverse it then the tests fail. There are a few reasons for this, you can find them on the internet.

 

They also do a test with 4 subjects, they only put a powerbalance card in one persons back pocket and credit cards in the other 3 without them knowing what they each have. They then get a Powerbalance demonstrator to come in the room and do the various tests and guess who has the Powerbalance. FAIL every time

 

Those tests are as unscientific as the ones that sell the bands. We need proper scientific tests, whatever those may be.

 

I think we can all agree on one thing, there are no proper tests to show anything either way. Very unscientific or repeatable.

Edited January 4, 2011 by The_Break

[chris_w_65]

Those tests are as unscientific as the ones that sell the bands. We need proper scientific tests, whatever those may be.

 

I think we can all agree on one thing, there are no proper tests to show anything either way. Very unscientific or repeatable.

 

If you can't prove it pushes out 7.83hz then you can't even start to prove the theory that 7.83 hz reacts with the bodies natural frequency (if you even believe that part)

 

On another similar thread I offered R100.00 to the first person who can show me the 7.83hz from a Powebalance band on an ocilloscope. I am increasing it to R500.00 cash. maybe I should increase it to a free Powerbalance band

Edited January 4, 2011 by chris_w_65

[GrumpyOldGuy]

There are also tests (n person) showing it does work. So how do we scientifically shoow either way. All I am saying is it not conclusive and nowhere has Power Balance stated it does not work.

 

We gotta get the facts right as there is a clear difference between the 2.

 

I hear your point, but they are walking a very fine line here, they are admitting there is NO SCIENTIFIC proof to support their claims about strength, balance etc so by implication, "what are they claiming it do's, if anything" - and why should the public buy it if they cant prove a benefit?

 

So, it comes down to individual opinion in the end, and thats a very dodgy area of retail to be playing in - I agree with chris65, if the American consumer watchdogs like the Better business bureau latch onto this and force a recall in the USA courts, PB will be in serious trouble both financially and legally.

 

In any event I think its possible this will kill the product internationally anyway, news like this is difficult to survive.

Edited January 4, 2011 by GrumpyOldGuy

[The_Break]

If you can't prove it pushes out 7.83hz then you can't even start to prove the theory that 7.83 hz reacts with the bodies natural frequency (if you even believe that part)

 

On another similar thread I offered R100.00 to the first person who can show me the 7.83hz from a Powebalance band on an ocilloscope. I am increasing it to R500.00 cash. maybe I should increase it to a free Powerbalance band

 

And exactly howe do you plan to link it up to the oscilliscope? Unless you get wireless ones nowadays.

[Zeps]

In my mind I need proof that it 'works' not that 'it doesnt work' and in the absence of that I'm afraid it's snake oil

[GrumpyOldGuy]

In my mind I need proof that it 'works' not that 'it doesnt work' and in the absence of that I'm afraid it's snake oil

 

Sure, their entire marketing ploy was based on their now discredited advertising - so in the absense of this "proof" they have nothing except individual opinions.

[chris_w_65]

And exactly howe do you plan to link it up to the oscilliscope? Unless you get wireless ones nowadays.

 

I don't know but if the Powerbalance is transmitting then there must be some way to measure it. If not then how do they test them at the factory to make sure the frequency is right? How would they check for rejects?

[The_Break]

I hear your point, but they are walking a very fine line here, they are admitting there is NO SCIENTIFIC proof to support their claims about strength, balance etc so by implication, "what are they claiming it do's, if anything" - and why should the public buy it if they cant prove a benefit?

 

So, it comes down to individual opinion in the end, and thats a very dodgy area of retail to be playing in - I agree with chris65, if the American consumer watchdogs like the Better business bureau latch onto this and force a recall in the USA courts, PB will be in serious trouble both financially and legally.

 

In any event I think its possible this will kill the product internationally anyway, news like this is difficult to survive.

 

I think Powerbalance will fade away without some very strong evidence coming through within the next few months. If PB can do some REAL testing then they may be able to save their product and even proof the critics who have no counter evidence other than their ignorant opinions wrong.

 

There was a lot of work done on the effects of magnetism on the human body during the 60s by a gent who eventually won a Nobel prize on the subject. Although there is a lot of info to read I do believe that there is some merit in idea that the electromagnetic effects can bring about changes to the body. I just do not think they have found the exact science of how and why it could possibly work.

 

But yeah, I think PB will fade without this as I do not think they will fid this evidence soon enough if it exists.

[Lou Zealand]

The skeptics @ratbag.com found this empirical evidence for PB's claims:

 

"Well, they certainly improve the strength of the retailer's bank balance, so I guess they do have an effect on both strength and balance. What they do for the purchaser is make them feel stronger and more balanced because their wallets will feel easier to pick up and won't pull down on one side of the body as much."

[GrumpyOldGuy]

There was a lot of work done on the effects of magnetism on the human body during the 60s by a gent who eventually won a Nobel prize on the subject. Although there is a lot of info to read I do believe that there is some merit in idea that the electromagnetic effects can bring about changes to the body. I just do not think they have found the exact science of how and why it could possibly work.

 

But yeah, I think PB will fade without this as I do not think they will fid this evidence soon enough if it exists.

 

Fair enough, I dont know much about the effects of magnitism on the body, I guess there must be some effect, be it positive or negative, but yeah, agree, they need to scientifically prove this to save their product in my opinion.

 

Personally I think they will just let it fade away, like "pet rocks" these fads have a short life, they probably knew it, and made hay while the sun shone - time for them to retire to the Caymans and laze in the sun I think.