Berg Man Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 I find this interesting. Surely the lockout on the dual makes it climb like a HT??? 1.5 kg or so weight difference can be made up losing weight around gut....... how many guys can really feel the diffence in weight?
Wolweseun Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 I have a hardtail and a Spark I prefer the Hardtail it is much more responsive and climbs betterYes the Dualie is more forgiving and better downhill but I dont really like it and will use it for stage racing but for one day races with big climbs I rather take the knocks on the hardtail If a bike is 1.5kg heavier no matter how much weight you lose on your ass it will still be 1.5kg heavier
Goodbadugly Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 The biggest drawback of the DS are the running costs. You have another shock to service. Also the bearings. The local agent charged me R1700 for the kit(the Santa Cruz bearings are not standard and neither BMG or Bearings international could help me). Luckily JB saved my butt. R670. Then it was the bushings around the shock. The local agent? The kit costs R2000. Well, well well. I took the bushings to a local engineering works and they charged me R190.Beware. A BIG service on a DS can cost you a bomb if you are not a DIY person.I have both. The hardtail for training. The DS for stage races and ultras. If you do not intend doing 75km marathons or more, stay with your hard tail. I am 45.
Caerus Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 The biggest drawback of the DS are the running costs. You have another shock to service. Also the bearings. The local agent charged me R1700 for the kit(the Santa Cruz bearings are not standard and neither BMG or Bearings international could help me). Luckily JB saved my butt. R670. Then it was the bushings around the shock. The local agent? The kit costs R2000. Well, well well. I took the bushings to a local engineering works and they charged me R190.Beware. A BIG service on a DS can cost you a bomb if you are not a DIY person.I have both. The hardtail for training. The DS for stage races and ultras. If you do not intend doing 75km marathons or more, stay with your hard tail. I am 45. Can I get some details from you please with regard to the kits etc that you need for your Santa Cruz( bearings etc etc)
Wet Ears Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Was introduced to MTB using a mates spare HT which I thought was great, until I bought a DS - no looking back.
Guest Iron Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) I was always a HT man till I raced a FS and i dont care what anyones says ( your soft , your this you that ... bla bla... what ever ) FS bikes are awesome and the riding is just so much more enjoyable. Especially when age creaps in .. Edited February 4, 2011 by Iron
Guest Iron Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 So to answer the post , do it !! you wont look back!!
BusyBee22 Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) i had a Giant hard tail...did the trick at rides, but at the exremely rocky places like at the top of silvermines in cape town, i would suffer...by the time i was done, my arms,back and bum hurt...but hey, it was a adventure so wasnt really bothered and was just glad i had a bike...was my first real mtb, so i was impressed. then one day, my husband approached me and asked if i wanted a DS...didnt think anything of it and of course i said yes!i was thinking what the hell, its a new bike...awesome!so along came the anthem X women 2010, dual suspension!what a deam..luckily i had done some homework before hand and realised that the DS was supposed to be heavier...oh no i thought!but hey the bike had been ordered!ALAS...my old giant bike was heavier than my new dual suspension. i have put amazing 2011 mavic wheel sets on and its a dream...comfy to ride and great rolling effect...dual suspension bikes are great...but for me, the wheels and extras are just important...maybe more!so make sure you get a good frame and great additives on that and i know ull be a happy camper! Edited February 4, 2011 by BusyBee22
quickdraw Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) Always been a punter of the HT, went from HT to DS and back to HT maybe 6 times - all XC based bikes. Recently got a 5.5" travel dual suss and LOVING IT!!!! No way I am going back to HT even though I find myself going over the bars a lot more frequently Edited February 4, 2011 by quickdraw
pbrizzolari Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 As has been said before, I think there is a time and place for both. I'm in the process of getting a scalpel for those longer races and I have my Merida HT for those shorter blasts. Next up, the flash 29er.
LazyTrailRider Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 The biggest drawback of the DS are the running costs. You have another shock to service. Also the bearings. The local agent charged me R1700 for the kit(the Santa Cruz bearings are not standard and neither BMG or Bearings international could help me). Luckily JB saved my butt. R670. Then it was the bushings around the shock. The local agent? The kit costs R2000. Well, well well. I took the bushings to a local engineering works and they charged me R190.Beware. A BIG service on a DS can cost you a bomb if you are not a DIY person.I have both. The hardtail for training. The DS for stage races and ultras. If you do not intend doing 75km marathons or more, stay with your hard tail. I am 45. Yep, it's easy to get ripped off... I was worried about the same thing when I got my Intense 5.5, with it being such a rare (and unfortunately also pretty expensive) piece of kit. Bought the frame 2nd-hand for R8500, and have had to spend the following: - Shock service - R900 (all new seals)- Shock mount bushings and hardware - R350- Complete bearing set replacement (Enduro Max I think) - R675 (incl labour) With exception to the shock service done by Cape Cycle Systems (it's a Manitou Swinger 4-way air), I have Mark at Crown Cycles here in CPT to thank for sorting out the rest for me at a fraction of the cost I was expecting. The man knows his stuff, well recommended!
LazyTrailRider Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Recently got a 5.5" travel dual suss and LOVING IT!!!! No way I am going back to HT even though I find myself going over the bars a lot more frequently Hah, it's surprising how quickly one picks up speed on a long-travel bike, isn't it?
YUMEYA Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 (edited) I ride up because I enjoy coming down, so FS!! . Edited February 5, 2011 by YUMEYA
HeidiB Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 i had a Giant hard tail...did the trick at rides, but at the exremely rocky places like at the top of silvermines in cape town, i would suffer...by the time i was done, my arms,back and bum hurt...but hey, it was a adventure so wasnt really bothered and was just glad i had a bike...was my first real mtb, so i was impressed. then one day, my husband approached me and asked if i wanted a DS...didnt think anything of it and of course i said yes!i was thinking what the hell, its a new bike...awesome!so along came the anthem X women 2010, dual suspension!what a deam..luckily i had done some homework before hand and realised that the DS was supposed to be heavier...oh no i thought!but hey the bike had been ordered!ALAS...my old giant bike was heavier than my new dual suspension. i have put amazing 2011 mavic wheel sets on and its a dream...comfy to ride and great rolling effect...dual suspension bikes are great...but for me, the wheels and extras are just important...maybe more!so make sure you get a good frame and great additives on that and i know ull be a happy camper!
HeidiB Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 BusyBee, glad to hear about another girl enjoying her Anthem. Got myself AnthemX1 2011 recently and what a difference this is making to my riding. Although not quite as fast as my ht on the climbs, the all-round comfiness and added confidence on downhills really make a huge difference and is keeping me smiling. Only regret not having converted long ago!
cycle-mania Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 get the spark. Its awesome. I did the attakwas on one, had no problems, very nice ride.
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