Hello All, Plastic bicycles just do not do it for me. Quality steel framed bicycles do not appear to be available in South Africa any more. What quality factory made steel frames are readily available in South Africa right now ?. Are there still any good bicycle frame makers left in South Africa ?, the name of "Gotty" Hansen springs to mind, (but then THAT was a long time ago) B) . In my view good steel frames are superior to the overpriced aluminium and plastic (sorry, carbon ) frames that are available today. Aluminium frames are a good second choice however. My choice of frame materials (in order) are:- Titanium Steel Aluminium Who else feels as I do ?. :D CIOCC are manufacturing the SAN Cristobal steel frames. One month lead time.