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Not sure what times u r doing thor those rides on 80km's I don't need food on 120km I need food this weekend road 4.5 hours around 130km 2 bottles of 32Gi one normal one accelerate and 1 packet of chews saw me through. The Accelerate has close to 300calories per a serving it's quite a feed but its best use for high intensity, I have been doing many experiments on it such as one bottle endurance one bottle accelerate, one bottle accelerate one bottle water, the endurance is great for those long rides where stability is key , but on short 2.5 hour rides where I go hard such as road or MTB or Olympic or Sprint triathlon I find accelerate on its own is great for longer events I still prefer the endurance as I pace myself differently. I guess it's all about race profile and expected level of intensity. This last weekend I did a 2.5 hour run but loaded on Endurance and then only took water I found the stability to be excellent compared to my run last week where I only took Accelerate however last week my average pace was 4.10km for 35km this week my pace was 4.52 for 28km the intensity was very different and Accelerate would have been a waste for yesterday's run, where as last week it was definitely needed.

They might not have received their stock yet as it was despatched last week it IRS to central warehousing and then on to the branches , u r welcome to contact us directly to find out which stockists in the CT area do currently have stock, email sales@32gi.com Sharon can assist :-)

Accelerate is for high intensity training or racing meaning fast release with some stability but if your no going all out in a long event I would stick to the endurance. I have often been using it, as a second bottle in testing during racing long distances, or on its own for events under 3 hours All the best m

If you want more calories and more energy in terms of release try 32Gi Accelerate ;-) works like a bomb and sweetness is not an issue u can tone it down.

Hi Abercrombie, the main difference between the two is that the Endurance product is just that, it provides a more stable consistent supply to the energy system, so when performing at DC say you would actually benefit from it as you will be pacing yourself there is no ways you are going flat out from beginning to end. With the drink though you would need to have some chews or additional calories to keep your energy levels topped up. Accelerate differs in that it kicks in immediately, but it is 4 stage releasing allowing for the taper to slow off, so what happens is yo get an immediate effect but it does not drop you it stabilises the drop off to provide a nice taper also leaving you with up to 2hours of energy. I would at the DC switch to Accelerate from the halfway mark and use it to the finish. I have been doing a lot of testing with Accelerate, and my longest ride on it has been 4.5hours, and my longest run 2.5hours, the 4.5hour ride I drank 2 x 600ml bottles but that is around 600calories of carbs. A serving of Accelerate provides close to 300calories which is an excellent feed for keeping your levels up. Its also where the products differ. There are a few options for DC I would say and these are: OPTION 1 Carbo Load 32Gi Endurance Pre-Load on 32Gi after your pre-race meal before the start 1st half of the race 32Gi Endurance 2nd Half Accelerate OPTION 2 Carbo Load 32Gi Endurance Pre-Load on 32Gi after your pre-race meal before the start 1st Bottle 32Gi Balance of Bottles Accelerate OPTION 3 Carbo Load 32Gi Endurance Pre-Load on 32Gi after your pre-race meal before the start Only Accelerate - but then I would say must take in chews to lower the GL. Of all the options 3 needs far more playing than the other 2, I would say option 1 and 2 are very safe bets, especially 1. We actually got Emily Fields who is the US 50km trail champ and San Francisco Marathon winner to use accelerate at New York Marathon she was ok to the idea as she does not like Gatorade and she was only using NY as a enjoyment race not a must win. She ran in 2h50 on Accelerate and she has been raving about it, to the extent the is now sponsored by us. But she raced at a fairly decent intensity and she experienced no drops which was great, so possibly for the average athlete it would provide a good 4-5hours of great feed. As I said my longest was 4.5 and I felt great on it. I have also ensured the sweetness is to 600ml, so if someone pops it into a 750ml bottle they could add more carbs or just keep it more bland. Stephen Muzinghi also raced on it at NY Marathon he jogged it in 2h29 which is not a fast race for him, but he is only 75% fit, he said he preferred this type of drink from 50km onwards into Comrades as thats when he would really need it as the intensity is upped and the gastric empyting will need to be a lot quicker, as well as the calorie feed. hope this helps, u can contact me if u need any advice all the best M

Following the success of 32Gi’s low GI Endurance energy product, we are proud to launch 32Gi’s ACCELERATE. ACCELERATE has been specifically designed for high intensity training and racing, where the muscles need a faster take up of glucose. It does not replace the current range of products, but rather compliments it. Accelerate has been formulated and tested in conjunction with professional athletes from a variety of sports (over 130 athletes have been utilized for product testing). ACCELERATE utilizes a 4 stage energy releasing system which provides an instant energy feed to the muscles while still providing the much needed stability that 32Gi has become so well known for delivering. ACCELERATE can be used in conjunction with the current low GI Endurance energy drink as a second bottle for when the higher intensity periods of a race require the faster feed. Providing close to 300 calories of carbohydrates with the much needed electrolytes Accelerate is highly suitable for the serious athlete. ACCELERATE: • Provides fast, balanced and sustained long lasting energy (up to 2 hours per serving). • Contains complex carbohydrates. • Is isotonic so you get the electrolytes you need to remain hydrated. • Is an excellent source for glycogen replenishment after an event. • Has an excellent gastric emptying rate, i.e. easy on the digestive system. • Has no unnecessary or unsafe additives • Can be premixed or frozen before an event

Hi Thor A long time ago we changed our flavors to 100% natural, this was done around March time and the flavours have not changed at all since then, we import from a company overseas that provides organic natural flavoring. I have been using the raspberry lately, i must admit i enjoy it. In Accelerate we have orange, lime and raspberry, which are similar but we have toned the flavour level to 600ml so that if someone fills a 750ml bottle its more bland, but they have the option of adding more without worrying about overloading. We are going to be adding an additional flavour to both ranges, something that is refreshing and not really sweet, will keep u posted we are doing focus group tests to see which is preferred ;-) all the best M

Agree with you Luke, my rides are usually water only, the only time I ever use energy drink is on very high intensity sessions, but mainly weekend sessions which are usually up to around 5-6hours. Up to 2 -2.5hours water is good for me and that sees me for rides of around 65-75km and runs of around 25-30km, if you eat a decent Pre-training meal then u r set and becoming more and more efficient at burning fat at a higher intensity with time it can only benefit u immensely, the only thing that I do stress on this is that in my case because I'm A triathlete when I do back to back sessions I need to ensure I do fuel in a session sometimes as I'm not fuelling for the existing session but ensuring i am fuelled and recovered for the next session. I always have my next sessions in my mind and i need to know my Glycogen stores and muscles are ready for the next one, I'm freaky meticulous about this to the n'th degree. So I suppose what I am trying to stress is planning training sessions is one thing but everyone should be planning their nutrition as well in order to ensure they achieve their goals having their next sessions in mind and also whether its becoming more efficient at fat burning, sparing glycogen, recovering, loading and more, whatever your training plan or purpose is u need to ensure that your nutrition supports this, and I need to stress again, it's not about what's in the bottle on the bike, yes it has a major purpose, but it's useless without ensuring you are eating correctly from the time you get up until the time you go to sleep. This is where the true difference in performance will lie for everyone = performance starts with nutrition training is second to that ;-)

no need to add whey if u have milk and peanut butter, its an overload of protein will just cause toxins to be cleaned out ;-)

Just some advice, if its before a ride, go with Soya milk or juice and NO oatbran it will cause stomach irritability, if its after thats great, but add 2 tsp of ground coffee, to give you some caffeine to assist with glycogen replenishment all the best M

are u looking for a pre or post workout smoothie?

Interested in how you used it for carbo loading, how much water to the bottle of 32Gi how many bottles when during the day and for how many days and for which event, also let me know what your meals were 48 hours leading up to the event, i can find the cause of the irritation then :-)

try SportsmansWarehouse they also stock and they make sure to keep all flavours up to date :-)

Monty just something I need to mention, there are some key ingredients that need to be mixed with isomaltulose to make sure it is absorbed and empties properly, using it on its own with Vit C, can lead to severe stomach cramps in sport, its not so simple ;-).Not trying to deter you, but as a nutritionist i need to make the athletes aware that under stress it performs differently As for 32Gi, if you look we launched a new product called Accelerate, 4 carbs, multi stage releasing.

Yes Covie I have, and I was a product analyser and tester for some major supplement companies for a while, I have bonked more than 50 times in the last 10 years on product testing, experimentation etc, the point I am making by the post is that I was still performing at a high rate, actually to be honest my PB's came on it. However a large part of anyones regime is to be focussed on daily nutrition, daily training, and I always advocate a supplement is ONLY that a supplement to a healthy regime, it aint a quick fix by any means, that will always be my stance. I dont want to go into product comparisons etc, it really gets a bit much, i inform and thats it, in the end the individual needs to experiment and decide.

Came 3rd in this race, it was a 70.3 event.

Guys come on seriously, if thats the case why have I podiumed so much on it ;-), think u should check your training and nutrition seriously :-)

Confused TNT ? Which points exactly seem baseless?

One more thing to dispel here, fats u don't need u r carrying More than enough for fuel , protein is a debate in its Own but it ain't gonna fuel u that's for sure at least not in any Cycle races here, for recovery that's a different story altogether, protein has a place but not in a one day cycle Event.

Andy, I am a nutritionist by profession I understand GI extremely well, I deal with a lot of elite athletes here and abroad around nutrition, whether daily racing or training and I get excellent results ;-)

Andy its simple, do a 10 hour iron man and carry banana s muffins energy bars ??? Not a chance, there is only one thing u need for racing its called carbohydrates and that equates to energy. I can't carry 10 bananas with me in calorie terms so I use very convenient fuel for my body. Earlier a guy mentioned a muffin, come on that would kill my digestive system,there is something called gastric emptying rate ie: digest and absorb a muffin ain't going to do the trick unless I am doing a 4 hour 94.7 or 17 hour ironman. I need fuel to be convenient and as simple as possible, that's why energy products exist, I am extreme when it comes to diet training and racing I am meticulous in what I consume, but even in the form of an energy product I keep It as simple and as natural as possible, no unnecessary additives no nonsense simple. I need to take in a certain amount of calories every hour and my digestive system needs to cope its not so simple shoving down solid food especially when u r performing at a high intensity. So I don't see the conflict in my statement saying keep It as natural or simple as possible.

Agree with you 1000%, there is no such thing as a quick fix or miracle product and each person is unique and an individual, in actual fact my fastest 94.7 time came at 2:19 on water alone LOL, had a great pre-race meal of natural foods. I actually mainly train on water to make my body more efficient at using its own natural energy stores and rely very much on pre-fueling. As an endurance athlete, I plan my race nutrition very meticulously and I stick to the plan like glue, and of course understand exactly what works for me and does not. A lot of people try something on race day and never actually know how its going to impact them, the key to training is not just around training your muscles, endurance ability, strength and stamina, but training your energy system as well. One more thing I would like to add which I think is extremely important, I noticed on another forum, not on the hub, someone saying he prefers one drink because it has glutamine added, or protein added, or this mineral and this vitamin etc etc. Understand one thing if you get a whole lot of additives to an existing base drink, dont think u r getting bang for buck, as an example u get glutamine and you get GLUTAMINE, manufacturers that add in additives do not necessarily use the proper good stuff meaning as close to natural as possible. I use glutamine only when my body is under natural stress, not during every session, as I can promise u i take in plenty through natural eating, beware if u overload on glutamine it can lead to organ issues, you dont want to go there. So how do u know if u r taking in enough. Mentioned above in many posts, know what u are ingesting, and make it natural as possible, I used this Glutamine issue as an example,it is relative to many many products in the market. If you are not sure where your deficiencies lie, go for a medical get a full blood count, glucose, feritine and liver function test. Check if your body is in order, when last did u get yours? Some food for thought.

TNT just so you are aware 1 packet of 32Gi chews is equivalent to 2 bananas or 2 potatoes in calorie and sugar response, so he ate solid food. I would say once you had the glass of coke your insulin levels shot up, this gave you around 30minutes to the finish, chances are before the finish they dropped suddenly and you went hypoglycemic, if you take in coke, then u need to keep taking it in frequently until the finish. There are lots of factors to determine fatigue, and if it was a true bonk or just fatigue, it could have been your body was not used to these long distances how many 70km off road have you done in training? also you need to practice your nutrition during your training. If you are going to race 70km, then you should be doing longer rides in training, and you should be understanding your bodies needs especially when it comes to nutrition. Drop me a PM so i can analyse and assist. all the best M

Hi all Just heard a cyclist wearing blue and white kit with some 32Gi logos on was knocked down on Pomona road, near Witkoppen and Cedar does anyone know who this is and who he rides for please, absolutely another shocking day for athletes, I heard he was i serious condition, my prayers go out to him and his family for a recovery. all the best M