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I'm in the market for a 20'' bike for my daughter. I have taken note of all of the above, but am still just interested in a bike that she will enjoy and gain confidence. Nothing extreme and none of those expensive brands.
Any recommendation where I should start looking? I am based in Centurion.
Thank you for sharing... your information is not helping my decision making one one bit! 
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As a matter of interest in a court case in SA a short while back, I don't recall the exact details but the court ruled the party concerned could not trademark or patent common use words or phrases as they belonged to the public domaine, the company concerned were trying to patent a common phrase of sorts.
True, but it must be noted that trade marks is class specific and obviously should not be descriptive. So, hypothetically speaking, one would not be able to obtain a trade mark registration for 'Apple' for your fruit shop (its descriptive) but for your computer shop it's a different story (not descriptive of your goods)
Yep - but why wait at least 4 years until complaining? I heard (not verifiable, unfortunately) that NeilPryde have been using the name for much longer...
Also valid :-)
I do however not know why wait so long. There may be endless reasons. Foreign IP law is somewhat different, I am still looking for a more detailed article on this. Anyone?
And the fact that NeilPryde have been using Alize since at least 2010?
Valid, but the date of registration of the various trade marks also plays a role
Yeah, I can see the infringement
NOT
:-/
Spez Corporate, you're out of line
Would the average consumer know the difference in meaning. I didn't.
In their normal use (ALLEZ vs ALIZE) can an argument not be made that there are visual similarities. Risk of confusion?
Complicated concept, but it boils down to trade mark rights being a territorial concept and not a worldwide right
This is interesting. Just to be sure is it ALLEZ vs ALIZE ?
I am also considering this. DIY project. And perhaps you don't have to use an electric motor, a hand winch may do the trick.
Also, I would try and mount the bike rack on the number plate end to free the other end to be able to lift the rack from my car and lower it back onto the car using the winch/motor.
PS, I have a home made bike rack, so minor changes apply.
Thanks all for the help.
I found some inner tubes at Cajees in Centurion this weekend.
@Vinney: B.A.T. seal?? Will sealant work, even if the wheels remain unused sometimes for a few days?
I am looking for inner tubes for our Chelino 3-wheel travel system.
Normal 12'' tubes are not difficult to find, but these Chelino ones have a 90 degree bend in the valve for ease of inflating.
I have emailed Chelino, waiting for response.
Anyone knows where I can get?
Some bad luck there...
What did you use to record your race time? GPS device? Polar?
Thanks for all the advice, this is really helpful. Looks like the Fuji compares better with the Scott than any with the Silverback.
Thank you Scotty,
These brakes, OK?
BRAKE SET Tektro Aurigo Pro Hydraulic Disc Brake, 180/160mm rotor
air forks vs coil forks ? or vs oil forks?
I assumed air v coil..
your best bet is then to go into a shop and chat to the salesman, ask as many questions as you can think off. Leave the shop and go to another and ask as many questions as you can, leave that and go and ask at another one. This will give you a good idea of what is available new in your price range. Then make up your mind.
However, what hardtail do you have at the moment? What is wrong with it that you want to upgrade ?
Thanks, seems the best idea, it's not really a matter of upgrading - since I have been doing more road, but I have a VERY old Trek rigid fork etc, so no, I do not have any reference point
Look at the fork - must be air
And wheels must be good too
The new slx is good enough mixed with maybe an xt rear der.
Thanks, pardon my ignorance, but why air, big diff?
Thanks, forgot to mention, i'm set on hard-tail 26, my mind tells me its cheaper to maintain and i can get better spec for by $$
I am not aiming to do big MTB races, I prefer road races, but I do want a MTB to do groenkloof, weekend aways, odd shorter races, mtb with friends and wife.
As much as I would like to fiddle around, I just do not have the time.
And regarding second hand, I do not know enough to make a call on used parts just to learn later that I now have to buy a new crank etc.
Hope that makes sense.
Thanks for the help
Looks like this topic fell off the map, so I am sort of hi-jacking it for the moment.
I am also in the market to buy a MTB, most probably new. Budget not more than R7500-R8000
So I am browsing specials etc. but what I would like to know is a few of the technical things, such as:
What are the most important components to look at, e.g. is it better to go for the bike with the better brakes or shocks etc.
Then, it would be nice to know the order of quality of components such as Shimano and SRAM.
With regards to brakes, what is OK?
Please help, I am in the dark here.
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Very useful analysis, thank you very much. You mentioned some factors I did not even consider.