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Yawn, covered already in what seems a thousand times. You just don't get it.

Disturbing news in fact after what he told Darren in that interview. In August, Liggett also stated that he would retire if Armstrong had been proven as a drug cheat. The UCI has to either ratify or appeal USADA’s case. In his senile ramblings about big Tex not having doped is this beauty: “I can’t [retire] because of contracts that have been signed that will not let me walk away. If I had no contracts signed I’d be ready to give up the sport now. I’ll be 70 years old next year and there are still things I want to do with my life. I can’t walk away because of contracts I’ve signed until 2016. I do find it depressing at times.” Thank goodness Eurosport is available on the streams otherwise I would have to agree that cycling is serious trouble. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/despite-usadas-evidence-liggett-remains-armstrongs-supporter?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=cyclingnews&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

Walk and chew gum?

At last! Something I can agree with you on.

Fat Pat has now said he is pretty appalled at what he has read in the USADA submission leading to speculation that the UCI won't wait the full 21 days to endorse the findings and carry out the lifetime ban of big Tex.

We arrived at the start, the gun went. Then after about 5 minutes we started moving. Massed start with only a few guys seeded at the front. No music, no fanfare.

The problem with this approach is the idiots are still here telling us about big Tex when we return.

Despite our so called world class labour laws, CCMA is hardly an outpost of 1st world justice and fairness.

DaLoCo you are wrong. Why should posters be allowed to post the rubbish we have seen in the last few days about the doping issue and believe it to be true or factual when all the evidence is to the contrary? Clearly an IQ issue. You need to breath when reading to yourself? This line spoils an otherwise excellent next point. And then it's spoiled by the 3rd point. Please don't invite them to come back and give us any opinion on the the matter of doping, big Tex, or lie detector tests because with their IQs they are not going to be considered or educated.

What is it with Sunday that the idiots come out to play? Not many brain cells doing the rounds in these big Tex apologists. But it's always like that with blind faith followers.

Oh dear. Have you written your letter to Santa Claus yet with your gift requests?

Gansta? Here is the translated version:<p><span id="result_box" lang="en">Dusseldorf (Reuters) - In the opinion of the former telecom sporting director Rudy Pevenage Jan Ullrich has resulted in his cycling career an unequal struggle against Lance Armstrong. Edit: copy and paste from German did not work.

The proof is there in black and white over 200 pages of direct witness testimony. Please do us a favour and read it before you comment further about needing proof. The case is proved. He doped. The proof is there in black and white over 200 pages of direct witness testimony. Please do us a favour and read it before you coment further about needing proof. The case is proved. He doped. No confession is needed. Has Rip van Winkel resurfaced?

Ok, my extreme dislike of big Tex that started in 1998 was completely misplaced. Here is why: http://ideas.time.com/2012/10/12/lance-armstrong-had-little-choice-but-to-dope/ I forgot that being the son of a single teenager and being the best at cheating are valid excuses.

I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse? Shame on you for owning it in the first place. I suppose that is the saving grace of religion: Repent and you will be saved. Good post. Some clarity in plain language for all the apologists. Liggett asked big Tex the question once (as told by the goose himself): PL "My Darling Lover who I adore as you have made me so rich broadcasting the TDF to the septics, do you use dope?" as he stared lovingly into his doped up eyes. To which the object of PnP's lust replied "No" And old goose head then went on to say: "And that was good enough for me. He never doped" What a doooooos The sooner he rides off into the sunset the better. Tosser. And to think South Africans still fawn after him. Whats with this rubbish paying this guy to attend at http://www.mindbodybike.co.za/mind-body-bike-all-events.php? Oh yeah, some sad gits paid big Tex $1 million US to come to SA and do some rides. Sad.

The reward for Jan Ullrich winning has long passed. This is not about handing it to the next guy.

Exactly what I said at the time, just too co-incidental that FS has got the moering with JB, next he's a doper....

So Verbruggen never never never said big Tex never never never doped. Wonder what he did say?

Marion Jones did her time for perjury. We are so soft on criminals in South Africa. Yet we moan about crime all the time.

Liggett has almost less credibility left than big Tex. Which means we as Saffas will invite him to all sorts of functions in SA and pay him silly money to bore us with his manlove of Lance.

Eldron, are you really as doff as you make out here? 2 years is the ban for doping. You can get a maximum of 18 months remission for co-operating with the authorities. However, the penalty for the offences big Tex acknowledged by stepping away carry a life time ban. No fanboy? pull the other one.

In the same way Juju has aligned himself to the youth? It's a crock of **** to justify the fleecing of a gullible public who are desperate to believe in something. Just look at the ancient Egyptians, a hawk shagged a ram and a goose and produced Amun.

Would you if you just found out the tooth fairy wasn't real? Here is a bit, sorry Swiis, it's a cut and paste, I can't put it into single syllable words for you: The evidence in the case against Lance Armstrong is beyond strong; it is as strong as, or stronger than, that presented in any case brought by USADA over the initial twelve years of USADA’s existence. As explained below, the evidence is overwhelming that Mr. Armstrong and his team director, team doctors, team trainers and teammates cheated throughout the 1998 – 2010 time period. Further on: Witness after witness would have been called to the stand and witness after witness would have confirmed the following: That Lance Armstrong used the banned drug EPO. That Lance Armstrong used the banned drug Testosterone. That Lance Armstrong provided his teammates the banned drug EPO. That Lance Armstrong administered to a teammate the banned drug Testosterone. That Lance Armstrong enforced the doping program on his team by threatening a rider with termination if he did not dope in accordance with the plan drawn up by Dr. Michele Ferrari. That Lance Armstrong’s doping program was organized by Dr. Ferrari. That Lance Armstrong pushed his teammates to use Dr. Ferrari. That Lance Armstrong used banned blood transfusions to cheat. That Lance Armstrong would have his blood withdrawn and stored throughout the year and then receive banned blood transfusions in the team doctor’s hotel room on nights during the Tour de France. That Lance Armstrong surrounded himself with drug runners and doping doctors so that he could achieve his goal of winning the Tour de France year after year. That Lance Armstrong and his handlers engaged in a massive and long running scheme to use drugs, cover their tracks, intimidate witnesses, tarnish reputations, lie to hearing panels and the press and do whatever was necessary to conceal the truth.

And they all obviously lied about him. In separate testimony. After obviously having compared stories before giving testimony. They are all just jealous of his success. And not one of them have been able to produce a shred of evidence, just stories of what they did. No test positive = not guilty.

Nice one eddy.