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Not sure if this link has been shared, and it does not tell us more than we know, but: http://www.news24.co...ropped-20130702

Tragic event! RIP Burry. I reckon there are a lot of people on bikes riding due to your achievements. I just read through this thread and there seems to be a lot of speculation. I obviously have no eye witness account personally but I had read something from an actual eye witness on IOL which I felt was worth sharing. http://www.iol.co.za...19#.UOrxZIfXArW So that describes the taxi coming from the Port Shepstone direction. Burry heading towards Port Shepstone. The taxi then turned into Stott Str in front of Burry. Note that there is a solid white line on the taxi side of the road. The image below shows the direction Burry was apparently travelling: http://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2229/a8c1611eeaf5487aa889fc9b629e5b5d.jpg Another report in Die Beeld implies that Burry was riding within the yellow line : Sharing the image of the taxi adds to the confusion. Very little damage to be honest. But it does seem to show that the impact was more in the front than a true "t-boning" as some seem to be mentioning. http://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2229/a83043b47ce948dfa640523632e46eee.jpg Burry's bike: http://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2229/228843cfefa74c4fbace30ba17b6668b.jpg

They are, for the must part. But again, the degree of rudeness, and ease with which it makes an appearance, is probably a reflection of the general demeanor of the said individual. Maybe cycling just attracts more naturally rude individuals for some reason.

Well this thread proves it I reckon. Many cyclists are apparently rude, stuck up, "I'm so much better than you" snobs. To those who are, I can only hope your life isn't as miserable as it appears when I see you out on the road. You'll still get a greeting from me but I now expect your miserable silence in response. For those that aren't, good on you and I look forward to greeting you on the road.

Great post, Simon, thanks for that. A lot of what you mention makes sense and I alluded to a few of them in the first post. I suppose being a runner of many years myself I just find the difference quite startling and rather sad. It is not going to stop me from riding, and it sure won't stop me from greeting as, unlike many others on this forum, I tend to be a happy, pleasant fellow

Wow, such a macho man, nishiki. Saying things like that must make you feel so awesome about yourself. I suppose comments like these do explain my perception that many cyclists are rude. There are a lot on here who seem to prove that point. This wonderful chap being one of them.

I was hardly bitching about them not greeting me back but rather making an observation. If discussions and observations relating to cycling are banned on this forum then please accept my apology. I also never turned it into a road cyclist vs MTBers discussion, others did. I merely pointed out my normal riding habits as these explained why I have not seen many other cyclists while out riding before today.Today was an exception and the reaction, or lack of it, from fellow cyclists was enough for me to feel it was worth asking if it was the norm. Some are accurately stating that you get rude people in all walks of life but as mentioned in the OP I came across a decent sample of pedestrians, joggers and cyclists this morning and, based on this sample, one group was way out as regards the norm. And for the person that asked, no I do not greet every car that drives past for a a fairly obvious reason, they usually approach me from behind at a great speed and are usually gone before I can raise me hand. I did offer speed as an excuse for cyclists but then again I passed many of them, hence was going faster, and managed a greeting. If a vehicle toots and waves though, as does happen, I am happy to reciprocate.

Wow, thank you so much for bestowing the honour of that title on me. I must have missed the nominations and voting but am stoked about it none the less. I would like to thank my Mom and Dad obviously as it was clearly genetics that lead to this title.....

Ah, so there may be something to it and I wasn't just imagining it? **** off, and a merry Christmas to you too!

A controversial title no doubt. Possibly a gross generalisation. But is there any truth in it? I usually ride at irregular times and most of the time off road on single track. As a result I very rarely come in contact with other riders while out there. This morning was different to the norm. I hit the road at 5am for a ride. I tend to be very cheery when I am out riding or running and greet everyone I see or pass. This morning I passed pedestrians, some out strolling, some on their way to work. I passed a number of joggers. And I passed a number of cyclists. Without fail the joggers returned my greeting with a cheerful smile. A number of them getting their greeting in first before I had a chance to get mine in. This did not surprise me as over many years of jogging I have always found fellow joggers to be cheerful. A very large number of pedestrians returned my greeting. Those that did not would at least glance in my direction or give me a smile. Not one single cyclist returned my greeting! The majority not even acknowledging my existence. Actually, I lie, the one chap seemingly reluctantly did so as we briefly stopped at the same robot together. So I need to ask, is this normal behaviour for cyclists? And if so, why? Does the relative expense of the equipment needed to cycle mean that most cyclists are snobs who feel they are above being friendly to strangers? Or is there some other reason? Perhaps the faster speed than the others means some need to concentrate real hard on what they are doing.

I have ridden Holla and the sugar cane fields around Shongweni and Summerveld, for which Emba boards are required, and fail to see what makes Holla superior in this regard? Much of my time at Holla, riding with two locals, was spent on sugar cane roads and the like. The point, which still stands, is that you can easily do a 60km from Giba without "looping or getting stuck behind plonkers" as he appears to insinuate is the case. Just this last Sunday a 45km race took place around Summerveld alone and most of it was spent on single track.

With an EMBA board you can easily do 60km without the issues you mention. And I am yet to get stuck behind a plonker, most willingly let you pass.

It seems there will be marchers. And are tractors allowed on national roads? Genuinely asking as I'm not sure.

Quite interested to read, especially after us being told in here how we should obey the rules of the road like all other vehicles, that we now have a story telling us that we are not like all other vehicles! No bicycles allowed at e-toll protest http://www.news24.co...rotest-20121206

Play by the same rules? Cool, so can we cycle in the middle of the road instead of hugging the pavement and dodging the broken glass and other rubbish I find it extremely annoying when the blame is shifted to cyclists. I cannot speak for others but I tend to obey road rules on the few occasions I am on the road but I often deal with cars passing exceptionally close to me even on wide roads. For safety sake I'll often ride deep in the yellow line and still cars cross over the line and pass within inches. The focus should be on educating vehicle drivers, of which I am one, but as a cyclist myself I am aware of other cyclists.

Idiots! Before long we'll read about CM being banned as an illegal gathering.

I must say that there are some amazing specials on your site.... normal price R4,470 your price R4,600. Great stuff! But in all seriousness, even the actual specials shown on your site are a little sad. I know they are possibly your normal prices, and not actual specials related to this offer mentioned here, but the prices where no mistake was made are hardly going to have me rushing in to buy from you. Normal R4,396 your price R4,300. That is around a 2% discount...

Great for sure but my daughter is very unlikely to need a more expensive bike than me! ha ha

Thanks for your response. I'm assuming you have a boy? As much as my little girl will grab the tools and help me fix my bike, she is still a little girl and they are definitely different to boys. I cannot see her shredding up the tracks on her bike but rather cruising along the driveway and the beachfront with her teddy bear in the basket at the front

Yip, the 16" will be too small in two years (or 3 if you go by the stated age of 7) bu7t then a 20" will probably be too big for her to ride comfortably now. I'd rather she get comfortable with riding rather than battle. where did you get the Avalanche for R750? Was that a while ago? There are no 16" bikes that I have seen with gears. It seems that they only bother with gears from 20" up. To be honest I think this is the right way to go. At 4 most are still mastering balancing and the like, gears would just add confusion. Also at 4 I am not sure about riding any major hills Ha! I can only hope that was not for the same birthday/occasion? A little cruel to the parents... You do know you have confused matters though. Everyone else who has bought seems to agree on the cheaper option but you are arguing in favour of the fancier option...

I agree with the comments stating that at that age it is more about appearance than functionality. For this reason I have scrapped the idea of the R1.6k Titan and am considering a R860 Avalanche Zoid and R699 Raleigh Lil Honey instead. I'm almost certain the basket and tassles will be more of a hit than the possibly higher spec components of the Titan and the possibly lighter frame (but it does have front suspension which I agree is a little unnecessary). I also like the mix of front v-brake and back pedal brakes on these cheaper options. The decision between the two will probably boil down to appearance. The more pink and more girly one probably getting the nod. As it is she decorates her current 12" with flowers and the like all the time. The basket will no doubt be perfect for taking the teddy bear for a ride. I also prefer the air tyres to the solid ones. Suppose the latter does mean less maintenance though but she loves working on her bike while I work on mine so extra maintenance might be good for teaching... The only downside of all of these is that they are damn heavy! Suppose the Titan frame would be lighter but then negated by the front suspension.

Confused now as you guys are talking 12" for four and five year olds yet online they refer to 16" being ideal for 4 to 7yr olds? 12" they say for 3 to 5yr olds, so there is some overlap.

Mackie, the thing is she has the 12" bike already so it was more about looking to upgrade. As mentioned the current bike is a hand me down from her brother and she is aware of the brakes not working, which is obviously less than ideal. When we were asking about Father Christmas she has asked for a whole stack of things, with some bizarre ones like wanting a jumping castle, but when looking through a catalogue today she spotted the bikes and said she wanted Father Christmas to get her a new bike with brakes that worked...

My little girl currently rides a hand-me-down bike which is a 12" one. The single hand brake on the front wheel is shot so it limits her riding. She enjoys it though so I am considering a new bike for Christmas. I am at a total loss when it comes to kid's bikes but have been doing some reading. It seems a 16" would best suit her. There is debate over whether coaster brakes or v-brakes are better. I am not too fussed either way but opinions would be welcomed. I have half an eye on the cheapy Game/Toys R Us/Sportsmans Warehouse specials like the Raleigh Lil Honey and the other eye on bikes like the Titan Calypso 16". Most discussions tend to revolve around looking for the lightest bike (not much different to us big folk). Now without knowing for sure the Titan should be lighter as it is alloy whereas the Raleigh is steel. But then the Titan has front suspension which many say is unnecessary and will add to the weight. The decision is hard to make as there are no components to look at and the like as you would on a bike for ourselves. Is it really worthwhile spending R1600 on the Titan when a bike like the Raleigh can be had for around R700? The main reason for putting it out there was some of you may have first hand experience but any opinions on this topic are welcome.

And don't forget Moonlight Mass on Wednesday at 8pm from Moses Mabhida. Wednesday weather looks good, Friday possibly dodge, so let's all go out on Wednesday just in case Edit: Ah, I see you posted that elsewhere. Cool